islam is a pseudo-religion that is anti-life, anti-civilization...follow the lead of President Thomas Jefferson when he formed the Marines and sent them to Tripoli to kill every muslim man, woman, and child to stop their piracy of our commercial shipping...it worked...they quit until Bush, Obama, and Hillary...time to re-send the message...

Err in the side of caution. I'm with you.

You got it 100% right. In view of this, muslims should either remove that part of their "bible" or specifically disavow it. If they are quiet about this, I conclude they condone it. Therefore, I am set against Islam at the present time as a violent enemy.

You have a deeper understanding of Islam than many do.

It says in their own "bible" that infidels should be killed. Thats a direct threat, and until that gets expunged from their "bible", I treat Muslims as the enemy unless they disavow that tenet. I do notice that hardly ever do Muslims say much about the muslim violence, hence I conclude that the ones who are quiet DO think infidels should be killed.

Only the religion of Communism comes close to Islam. But as bad as Communism is, it pales in comparison to Islam and Islamic sects.

A man after my own heart.
As a former Boy Scout, I would keep their motto in mind. "Be prepared."

Very insightful.
Until Dr. Jasser and his ilk prevail, I think we would both recommend cautious observation. Packing heat may be appropriate in some cases.

DO YOU REMEMBER THE WORLD BEFORE YOU WERE INDOCTRINATED WITH THIS NEW WORD - "TERRORISM" - THAT IS MEANT TO COW YOU INTO SUBMISSION TO THE POWERFUL AND TO BEG THEM TO REMOVE YOUR RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS FOR "SECURITY" FROM THIS "TERRORISM" YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT TO COWER FROM??!!??!!???

Can we generate fear, thereby fundamentally destroying the freedom from fear America once enjoyed, and inn so doing fundamentally change this nation to a cowering morass ready to subrogate their freedoms for a false shield, and our liberty to a dictatorial oligarchy that will generate more fears, er, protect us from fear while they enslave us as serfs to their evil plans and mannerism?

I note two separate events - one was when we dropped the ball and allowed our country to become weak, allowing these fringe nutcases to take actions that are not only mentally psychotic but fundamentally evil, and the second was when we fed into these nutcases to find, much as Germany found in the 20's and 30's, a national scapegoat to foist these fears, this hatred, this loathing of the untermenschen upon.

IF... you want to help the powers that be spread their lust for an American culture of cowering and fear, go on any website, or stand in a marketplace, and post (or shout) "Allau Akbahr". I guarantee you will join the ranks of the cowering fearful, thereby assisting the final plan of "hope and change". Or take it back, and make it not a thing to be feared, but understood. If you dare.

It is our right as conscious human beings to make assessments about threats to our survival...it's nature and it's hard wired.

I wouldn't call it a phobia because we do have "Reason" for concern. In the quran, there are 109 subversive versus that command a muslim to do harm to another. See: It IS about islam by Glenn Beck
If a muslim does not swallow the whole thing, hook, line and sinker...then they are not muslim...the same goes for all the perversions of Christianity, Buddhism, gaiaism, new age satanism, progressivism, environmentalism or luciferarians.

Thank you. There are so many who miss that simply stated point. I remember when I read many years ago, Rand's use of the Mystic and the Hun in order to clarify where the perpetration of evil comes from. Islam combines them both. A perfect evil machine.

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Ah, rationality. thank you.

Not to repetitive, but unlike Islam, there was no unifying formal philosophy behind those acts. The key to this conversation is the fact that Islamaphobia Is Not A Phobia inasmuch as it isn't irrational.

Looking at the San Bernadino example, where the couple gunned down their office associates who had recently given them a baby shower, I'd say erring on the side of caution is in order. People can surprise you in the most unpleasant way.

Islam is unique in the pantheon of human religions, as it's the only one which ascribes to theocracy. There have been other religious organizations in the past that have attempted to wield secular power, like the "warrior Popes," but those weren't driven by scriptural pronouncement like Islam.

Islam is also the only religion that encourages deception, if it protects or promotes the faith. That alone makes it difficult to establish trust. It also opens the door to the Muslim to lie as an act of convenience. Graft, bribery, and corrupt practices are an accepted way of life in Muslim society, because "everyone lies."

I've had Muslim associates, and they generally acknowledge that there are difficulties in getting around cultural disconnects and gaining trust. Dr. Yudhi Jasser, a prominent American Muslim, has it right when he says Islam is overdue for a Reformation that moves the faith into a modern way of thinking and acting.

I consider Islamophobia to be a controlling PC term to be ignored.
Politically incorrect old dino will profile someone who looks or talks like a potential Muslim.
I'm always friendly and polite; but make no mistake, I'm watching every move made.
I've had plenty of practice at such a thing as a retired corrections officer.
I also pack a pocket pistol in what inmates call "the free world."

The difference: All of those listed were not perpetrated by persons of exactly the same religious belief, or for that matter, maybe the same anything. Which is why you can condemn the individual acts, but not a unifying motive behind them as with Islam.

The old testament comes close, but not quite there. However, in the case of any religious document, you are reading, depending on your outlook, allegories, fairy tales, or literal translations. In every case, the answer is still No. Truth is that which corresponds to reality. They are, by their very nature, untruthful.

Islam is a special case. Its foundational documents command their readers to commit murder and treason, and to wage war against non-followers.

Fear of Islam and of Muslims is rational, for a better reason even than the record of incidents you list.

The Qur'an itself commands its readers to commit murder and wage war against non-Muslims and their governments, with a view to world conquest. And nothing is too perverse or disgusting for a Muslim to do to a non-Muslim.

The Qur'an also says it is acceptable to lie to a non-Muslim. So how can you trust them to keep treaties, or to keep any bargain you make with them?

Words have meanings. If the translations are correct, then my only alternative is to take them as they are defined. It is quite clear the the Quoran means exactly what it says. So does the old testament which is also pretty bloody. The difference is that the radical Muslims believe in it literally, while Christians and Jews have, for the most part, smoothed the old book over by claiming that it is allegorical.

anything you say to muslims falls on deaf ears. they have their religious beliefs to live up too and that is it. they in total should be feared, no exceptions.

That is it. Thanks for sharing.

I understood your point, and agree with it. The term you are looking for is al-Taqiyya (sometimes spelled Taqiya).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

My point was not the percentage. The point I was trying to make is the fact that the Koran teaches political correctness until believers have the upper hand. Then convert or kill. Which brings the question, are believers in Islam simply lying about their beliefs to get along until they have the upper hand? I don't pretend to have the answer since I do not practice Islam but I have read these passages from the Koran. So when the book they study from openly states hostility, how do we know what is the truth?