11

Republicans Shift to Last-Ditch Plan to Stop Trump at Convention

Posted by $ nickursis 10 years ago to Politics
125 comments | Share | Flag

Reading this, it is no wonder that our country is a disaster. Special interests, "my way or no way" politics, a 2 party state where both parties are identical and wrapped up in their own greatness. All this is what Trump bashes. Is he right? I don't know, he seems to be a goofball, with a childish emotional state. However, he is NOT what is currently in power, which is what has them running scared. But how can anyone expect anyone to listen to the last 2 losers they fielded just because they were the party anointed ones, and who had nothing to offer against the Obamanation? It speaks to the arrogance of power that Romney, who failed, now thinks he is blessed enough to "save the Party". Nope, if Trump doesn't beat the HillaryBeast, assuming she is not indicted, it will be their "let me cut my nose off to spite my face" attitude, and take us all down with them into a Democrap hell that will cement Obamacare and add a huge tax gouge to pay for all the giveaways she will do, as well as whatever she skims of the top for her and Billy boy. What morons....


All Comments


Previous comments...   You are currently on page 2.
  • Posted by term2 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Local traffic offense fines should NOT go to the town's that pass the local traffic laws and hire police to enforce them. Talk about conflict of interests
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump doesn't use telepromters or prepared speeches in this primary run. That is hard to do and is rare these days. Hildebeast just delivers speeches tailored by her handlers to say things the local audiences. Want to hear.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Remember, politicians, including Trump, are only worth 10% of what they say..the Obamanation is pretty good evidence...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My point on Cruz is he has been in the Senate and done??? Showing up and complaining about what all is wrong when you were in the crowd that is supposed to fix it, is as endearing as Trump and his fence. Trump, though, has not had a chance, so that is his attraction, although he is a whacky dude...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep...indeed it will. Seems like the Winnebago seems to be going off the cliff, while everyone is looking at the map..or the GPS...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    term, the issue I see is that there are aspects of Trump that are amazingly bizarre and at conflict with what he states, which is what I see from most people. He rambles sometimes like Reagan did as he got Alzheimers, which is very concernig. He is not a perfect choice, or even a good choice, but the alternates provide no choice. That is the conflict, and some people will not be able to resolve it, becuase they just cannot make sense of some of his weirdness. I only find him interesting because he will shake the place up, maybe uncover some of the rot, which may help in some repairs. The structure of government should hold some of his crazier things in check, but maybe it will spur addressing some of the issues that need addressing.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good for you, after I move, I will scout the local scene and see what is available. Little steps is all we can take right now...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First, I made a typo above, quoting Putin - a big crowd in the Red Square, not "crown". Sorry.
    Now to the substance. It is not the amount of electrons that one can send around the world that matters, it is what other people hear and how they react to it that matters. Jesus didn't have a printing press; in fact, nothing that he said was even written down, but it was heard and it changed the world. My father spend all his money writing and publishing his research - and he was the only one that read it.

    As to MLK making black's lives better - the percentage and the amount of broken families is unprecedented, the level of government dependence (slavery) is unprecedented (since the Civil War), the level of uneducation and stupidity, along with generational unemployment is unprecedented. And you call it Progress? I'm not religious, but I still have to say: God, save me from this kind of progress!

    And for the rest of your assessment, I'll get a rosy telescope and then maybe I'll see what you're seeing...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I will be voting for Johnson"
    I will vote for Johnson if I feel confident it won't help the Republican, unless Rand Paul somehow got back in. In this election, it seems like anything is possible. I think of dream scenarios in which they nominate Trump and he implodes, paving the way for a libertarian. I really hope Gary Johnson doesn't have any skeletons in the closet b/c in that remote case where Republicans implode, Libertarians must be ready to jump in. I know that's probably a pipe dream.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Internet is like a big crown in the Red Square – scream all you want, no one will hear you."
    Wow. We see technologies and media going viral, without any traditional gatekeepers. When I was a kid people used to say the press is only free to those who own one. That's just gone. People share niche ideas so far down the long tail that a 'zine would have struggled to have enough following to justify distribution and printing. Is there any pace of progress in ability to share ideas without gatekeepers that you would not see as a problem?

    "As to realizing MLK’s dream, that’s actually Thomas More’s dream (not the first and only plagiarism by MLK), with the same result…"
    Fifty years ago people wondered if the dream was too radical. Now we talk about whom to attribute it to. I'll take that as an amazing success.

    "The issue that we now have is that LGBT “rights” trump everyone else’s rights – when someone’s rights are more important than others’, they become privileges."
    LGBT people always had rights. We just now have a gov't that respects them. People considering them "special rights" or "privileges" that must come at the expense of someone else's rights/privileges is going away. That was something bigots said in the 90s. It sounds retro today.

    "Much over 60%!"
    Marginal federal rates were in the 70% range for decades before I was born. I don't consider this rapid progress. I think there are things happening now that could break either way, either for cutting or expanding gov't. So this is a huge concern.

    "but more to do with the fact that more and more people carry weapons and are willing to protect themselves. But let the Progressives have their way…"
    But they haven't. What we're doing is working. You can take anything that's working and say, "but soon enough someone will screw it up."

    "America has provided an opportunity for unprecedented social mobility; today’s government-enslaved poor have no chance of ever getting out of the ghetto."
    Unprecedented social mobility is what we have now. Gov't-enslaved poor living in a ghetto is what we had more of in the past than today. We can admit that without condoning the massive gov't taxation, borrowing, and intrusiveness that we have to day.

    "Lastly, regarding geographic boundaries, which you claim do not matter anymore – with the spread of Islam throughout yet unconquered territories, we will either see a very nationalistic shutting of the borders or Sharia takeover within a generation or two. Then you can unequivocally say goodbye to women’s and LGBT rights…"
    I say it simply won't happen. If you show that comment to someone 20 years from now, it will be easily identifiable as being from the 2010s, at least by people who remember what got people fired up two years ago. Islamists want to have a state, but they're actually criminals. No one wants criminals around. The nationalistic protectionism won't happen because the golden straitjacket of trading with one another is so enticing.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting. she didnt win at all. the property was eventually sold to The casino that wanted it for LESS than Trump had offered her.

    Slavery wasnt the issue that caused the civil war. It was the excuse. The North was jealous of the success of the south.

    Jefferson kept his slaves so he could manage his huge plantation cheaply, just like the rest of the slave owners. My point was that the constitution was a big series of compromises at the time. But in the end, it was a decent document reached by compromise (but of course Trump cant compromise ...)

    Well, we will c. I doubt Cruz will get nominated, let alone beat Hillary or Sanders. So we will never know.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by BeenThere 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ".......politics follows philosophy."
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do as your own conscious dictates and be satisfied you have been true to yourself, thats the best you can do, especially in this mess.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by term2 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You got it 100% right. I do think that exposing the obvious failures of statism will speed up the process, at least a little
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excuse me, I don't think there is much "doubt" to give Trump the benefit of. The way I heard it, he not only praised affirmative action in the abstract,he actively used it, to violate the property rights of an old lady who refused to give in. (And I was relieved to hear that she eventually won).
    When it comes to the Civil War, I am solidly
    on the side of the Union, as, had it gone the oth-
    er way, the continuation of slavery would have
    been the end result.
    As to Jefferson, it is shameful that he never
    carried his own rhetoric into action so far as to
    free his own slaves (as Washington did his--up-
    on his death, but at least he did that much).But
    the country they were fighting at the time also
    had slavery in those days.
    It is certainly true that "establishment politici-
    ans have made a huge mess." I just don't think
    that Trump is really anti-establishment. I intend
    to vote for Cruz. He is not ideal, but I consider
    him the best option available.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Freedomforall, as you recall, I used to like Trump, mainly for his revolt against PC and the status quo. I must thank you helping me see beyond that, as Trump does, indeed, represents the Dark Side of the Force. Although I am generally comfortable with Cruz (he does appear to be a Constitutionalist), if Trump is nominated, I will be voting for Johnson if only to have a clear conscience. Of course, this is like taking the Blue pill, since our votes don't count anyway.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trust, but verify. Most people want to skip step 2, too much work and too hard to get facts. I have not trusted a politician in 20-30 years just because they have proven to be deceitful, and always wanting to get that money for the next election. That is why I would rather a fixed fee election system, where anyone can contribute to a kitty, and it is split up amongst any one wo gets a threshold of signatures on a petition. Even that has pitfalls, and it does limit "free speech" clauses, but our society has proven that honesty and truth required for free speech is in too short supply, and the kiddies need some rules to play nice. Never will happen...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nope, power is blind to threat, they just reclassify it as "disturbance". And disturbances can be ignored...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    John, I am not sure the will "change" just dig up some obscure paragraph found on page 182 of the RNC convention rules. Change is too obvious, just like manipulation through "super delegates".
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well said, I hink the middle class is simply disappearing because we get forced down when the majority of our income is ripped off. You also need to factor in the state and local government new fetish of "fees" for everything, which is another tax, it just is easier to implement and abuse. They are another drag and food source for the little piggies.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The impact of modern communications and instate trading will accelerate any changes and exaggerate any crashes, I believe. So their impact may be magnified. Maybe a good solar flare would make it easier.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ 9 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would almost say the Objectivism is not viable with todays general sheeple population. It requires a certain ability to assess both yourself and your place in the world and the relations involved, and determine your values. As well as a commitment to your own value and work. That seems antiethical to most sheeple today, and would be too much work. To make it palatable would require a basic rendering down to several basic principles the sheeple could easily digest. I am not sure that can be done and retain the philosophy. It's work, and work seems counter indicated with these patients, doctor.
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo