Ted Cruz Supports Law Enforcement Over Freedom

Posted by khalling 9 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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it was just a matter of time for me after the immigration stance...


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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The war on Terror. That gives the government cover for all this BS. Bush was an idiot to start Homeland Security and things have escalated ever since. Wonder how long Apple can hold out?
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  • Posted by random 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The government already has everyone's phone numbers and personal info. They're already peeking through the windows. They're asking Apple to make their encryption vulnerable, which means the government will force the door-maker to include a hole in the door, so that the government can open the door from outside without your consent.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    oh. basically, I am seeing the trajectory of Cruz as a law and order guy. he'll dump liberty for safety. never a good plan :)
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have heard the landlord analogy. here's how it's different. The whole point of encryption is to keep others out. I believe that Apple has protected their encryption and it is well designed. Could they develop a way to hack it? sure. can the govt require them to perform that work? no. There is precedent in times of war-which is the ancient Act they are using in this case. We have not declared war. it will always be something. the govt wants control over any privacy of the citizen and private sector. it is how it stays in power. cede not!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    got that right ...and it's legal too since the original law governing use of air waves to transmit signals such as radio and tv...with some modifications by the court. not like wire transmissions...The rule was if it's followed.- transmissions of such as cell phones must originate or end in out of the country..in any of the segments...which means if the cell service uses satellite relays it satisfies the requirement.

    If it doesn't they just apologize maybe for the error ....to their boss

    The law goes back to the 1930's and also prohibits interference with through the air transmissions so we can't get the cell phone jammers or black out spots (50' diameter circle mas o menos ) available elsewhere as one example
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the clarification.. So apple is just another Micros soft except puts out a working package from the start instead of 'get it on the market fix it later.' Interesting
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    K, I'm not quite sure that I still understand what you are say.

    I guess what I don't understand is the correlation between this and immigration. I should have been more clear in my confusion. :)
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  • Posted by Mitch 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BS on top of BS… I’m not a fan of Apple because they simply regurgitate technology in a slyest package. Apple doesn’t manage the encryption keys to encrypt data. The news stories is saying encrypted data not a locked screen. Data is encrypted with key pairs that are managed by companies external to Apples control and if a back door existed, it would negate the entire reason for the technology in the first place. Once encrypted, you must have the private key to decrypt the data, period. These people stating that Apple must have a back door, they don’t know… it’s a guess… Do they have a back door to unlock a locked screen, I would assume they would. Do they have a back door to decrypt data that their customer encrypted, I would assume not.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 4 months ago
    Does this analogy work? If the FBI has a search warrant for my home I have to let them in so they can search it. I don't have to give them a key so they can come in whenever they want to my house and all my neighbors houses. I think Apple should give any phone numbers and info but they don't have to show law enforcement how to do it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BS they have back doors for everything if the company doesn't the programmers involved certainly do...it's how they get in to fix and repair.

    Bottom line they can get in but don't want the feds to have the knowledge that would lead to getting into other cells and refused point blank to set the phones up that way

    exactly what the judges warrant stipulated.

    So it's between the feds and the corporation and their lawyers as to how and what can be witnessed on the entry method which means it's the same back door for all of them...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BS they have back doors for everything if the company doesn't the programmers involved certainly do...it's how they get in to fix and repair.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thats what surprised me unless there are two Reasons...that business with the Rand and immigration posts some months back cured me of the site given with that name ....I didn't subtract any points or anything...
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    there does not exist a code "key" that unlocks the sophisticated encryption for Apple devices. That is the point the encryption. Can it be developed? absolutely. Is it the govt's place to demand a company perform for the Fed govt against its wishes? Yes, in times of war.
    Look at it from this angle-remember all that data they are collecting under secret order and storing every 9 months from all of our cellular devices? why the hell don't they go get what they need from there? If they can't, then they can bloody well quit collecting my personal communications. because that was its express purpose.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago
    Bottom line:
    Apple has no way to crack the phone.
    If government had the authority to crack the phone they should spend the effort to crack it by hiring someone who is willing to do so, not by forcing Apple to do so.
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  • Posted by editormichael 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not entirely correct. If, by "politician," you mean a candidate for public office, you are being far too broad. Libertarian Party candidates -- nearly each and every one -- are running for office ONLY because they want people to be free.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it isn't he isn't and the article quoted proves it not the opposite. it's a poor source at best anyway.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
    That's not what he said...and it's a real poor source to quote from though it says the opposite in the first few paragraphs.

    first of all Reason was the source for the charges of Rand lying to immigration. When challenged the writer of that nonsense claimed it was backed up in Reason. It was not and that in two articles both of which promised facts and failed to deliver.

    Second. Cruz stated in this specific case of a committed crime the court order specifically said they needed to open up access on this one specific cell phone. Not provide a means to open it up. the key was to be kept in their hands not loaned out. He further stated he was against the blanket request for back door technology to be provided to Law Enforcement something it appears that was asked for by them and denied by the judge;.

    End of non existent controversy. And strike two for Reason. which as i recall started as a libertarian blog and 'we don't get along with them.'

    so I have to come down on the side of Cruz as in the end I had to come down on his side on the foreign born non-issue

    but I still don't like his tax plan ....until I see some sort of proof it will not be instituted until after income tax is repealed and then in a proper end user consumption tax form.

    And i still state that if he want votes there is not better place than the 46% disenfranchised to add to the less than 24% Republican since most of them are RINOS and actually Democrats anyway. The way to do that is Webb as VP running mate....Not by turning weak sister and supporting a poor second choice left wing socialist corporatist.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 4 months ago
    There is no such thing as a politician that wants people to be free.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 4 months ago
    Could you please explain your comment K.

    If this is real, IMHO Cruz is wrong
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