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"I shall choose friends among men, but neither slaves nor masters." - Ayn Rand

Posted by GaltsGulch 8 years, 3 months ago to The Gulch: General
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"I shall choose friends among men, but neither slaves nor masters. And I shall choose only such as please me, and them I shall love and respect, but neither command nor obey. And we shall join our hands when we wish, or walk alone when we so desire." - Ayn Rand

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  • Posted by fosterj717 8 years, 3 months ago
    It is a creed for individualism that all who wish to walk on their hindlegs and be beholding to no one should follow with head up and character intact!
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 3 months ago
    Does she mean she would have no friends among women? Or is "men" an umbrella term for humans in general? And what would people have to do to "please" her? She is the harshest of judges, and she scorns "second-handers". Yet most humans have earmarks of second-handedness, since they imitate each other and take on others' preferences, if only to please them. In social settings all participants have to give a little to fit in, of only by observing communal protocols that evolved for group cohesion. Like it or not, that is how humans behave for mutual survival. It is a rare human who can maintain a free and unconstrained self while part of an interdependent society. Just look at how some members of the Gulch compete in criticizing and condemning those among themselves with whom they don't agree. Yet the Gulch was envisioned to be a place where one could find the kind of compatible spirits that one would call a friend.

    By the way, I do not see any sexual innuendoes in this quote. In other contexts Ayn did declare herself to be a man-worshipper. It's quite a trick to worship without being submissive.

    Seen objectively, this quote is a great formula for free and equal relationships among individuals, a direct application of Galt's oath.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 3 months ago
      Are you asking or preaching? But in the end you got there. At the time written terms like mankind were generally inclusive since PC has dirtied the language the best thing is don't use a dictionary printed after 1980.

      I wonder why we are the only language that has this difficulty. In Spanish speaking countries they would laugh you out of the conversation. Imagine they still routinely use the term negro.

      Back to Ayn Rand. Seen objectively it is a great quote that supports the supremacy of individualism over all else. Freedom of Choice not enslaved or doomed to be a collective non-entity.

      I see someone else didn't agree but it only went back up to zero.
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