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After Atlas, are you considering The Fountainhead?

Posted by lmgenz 8 years, 3 months ago to Movies
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I am reading THE FOUNTAINHEAD and I know this would be a marvelous movie, too. Do you think about making a movie with this great book, too ?


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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 3 months ago
    Ayn Rand's first major novel We the Living was also made into a movie in fascist Italy, unknown to Ayn Rand at the time. The Italian production followed the novel closely but some brief dialogue had to be imposed praising the fascist ideology to get it past the censors.The Mussolini government eventually figured out that the theme in the plot about communist Russia applied equally to itself, which was why the movie became so popular in Italy.

    It was squashed by the government but revived many years later by friends of Ayn Rand who discovered it had been made and eventually tracked down a copy that had been hidden away in Italy during the war, then reissued it in America under Ayn Rand's control.

    It was produced in Italian so the American reissue has subtitles. The artificial fascist slogans were replaced in the dialogue and the integrity of the plot and theme restored. Ayn Rand said that she thought the Italian film of We the Living was better done than The Fountainhead and liked the lead actress playing Kira very much. It's now available on DVD with extended background material on the production and history.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 3 months ago
    The existing movie of The Fountainhead was abbreviated but it was a really good film. The casting was excellent. Rand wrote the script so you knew the essence of the story was intact. A remake either as a TV special or movie would be great, but don't expect it to be a blockbuster. It only has one explosion.
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    • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 2 months ago
      It was quite well done although a bit dated today. Please don't do a worse job than that. Certainly not as poor a job as the three Atlas Shrugged movies did. OK, they were better than nothing but there was simply much too much not well done.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 2 months ago
        I think that the only way Atlas can be done properly is with a TV series that would contain not only the philosophy, but the really good story line that sustains it. Hopefully, what the producers of the movie have in mind would be written with the tension and unpredictability of characters, in the same manner that other sustaining shows that don't rely on car chases and explosions to keep it interesting.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 3 months ago
    The 1949 production of "The Fountainhead" is not a perfect movie but it is pretty good. Ayn Rand wrote the screen play and had artistic control over much of the film Check out the IMDB and Wikipedia coverage of the production. Rand's philosophy comes through quite clearly as do the motives and agendas of the villains. Twohey is a truly despicable person. Rand's penchant for revealing her protagonist's perspective by means of a courtroom drama is handled nicely in the film. It is definitely well worth watching.
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    • Posted by Rex_Little 8 years, 3 months ago
      According to what I've read, Rand didn't have as much control as she wanted, and was displeased with the result. That's largely why no AS movie was made during her lifetime--she wanted more control than any producer was willing to give her.

      I agree with the choice of Jim Caviezel for Roark. DiCaprio and Dean Cain are too pretty; they'd be better suited for Peter Keating.
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      • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 3 months ago
        Rand was never much for compromise (which I consider to be to her credit). She wanted absolute control over the production which the money people would never let her have. The problem is that if all her wishes had been observed the movie would have been 6 hours long. I agree about Caviezel. He is an excellent actor and well suited to the part. DiCaprio would make an ideal Peter Keating. I like that.
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      • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 3 months ago
        You are correct. Rand had endless battles with King Vidor, the director. She very much liked the casting of Gary Cooper as Roark though. For me, Cooper is a bit too wooden but I really liked the rest of the casting. Rand never liked the finished product and carried that difficult experience with her for the rest of her life. Rent it, it's a lot of fun to watch.
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        • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 3 months ago
          Cooper's halting rendition of the courtroom speech made it clear that he had no understanding or passion about the material. I find it hard to believe that a jury listening to his plodding speech would acquit him.

          For comparison with impassioned speeches, see:
          • Jack Lemon's jury defense speech in How to Murder Your Wife
          • Al Pacino's opening remarks to the jury in And Justice for All
          • Ned Beatty's speech to Peter Finch (as Howard Beale) in Network
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        • Posted by krevello 8 years, 3 months ago
          I've read that Gary Cooper later admitted he did not understand either Rand's ideology or Roark's character which led him to poorly portray Roark. I have to say, I've always had a soft spot for Gail Wynand, and I like this ending a little better than the book, though I've never understood why Rand changed it. It seems a little more forgiving to Wynand, which is contra to the point of the book's ending. But it is a fun movie to watch.
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          • Posted by ewv 8 years, 3 months ago
            Gary Cooper said later that he came to understand it much better and could have done a much better job with the courtroom speech had he known at the the time what he later came to understand.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 3 months ago
    Hollywood would ruin Fountainhead.
    I wouldn't trust any country's movie industry to do it justice for political reasons.
    If it was made into a TV series today, Dominique Francon would be the main character and she would have super powers including unerring prophesy and ability to beat Peter Keating and Gail Wynand at arm wrestling simultaneously. Howard Roark would be found guilty of terrorism and given a sentence of 100 years of public service, and of rape and be sentenced to licking Dominique's boots clean. Ellsworth Toohey would have "invented the internet" and would maintain control of all media. Peter Keating would be the Republican speaker of the house.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago
      I can see your concern, too. Just let say that not every producer are so bad, are they ? The difficulty would be to kept the gentle and smart nuances of character and the balance between egoistical necessity and good will. However, I have a great feeling that THE FOUNTAINHEAD is a work who can bring a new way of thinking in those poor societies of ours, nowadays. Movies have a reason of existence.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 3 months ago
        I'd love it if that was true, but I do not see any works done by Hollywood that are not socialist propaganda or producer guilt trips or "white men are all evil, incompetent, sexist, racist scum" propaganda. Ditto for virtually everything done on tv.
        "Movies have a reason of existence."
        Yes, as propaganda vehicles to change the mindset of the viewers from ethical caring people to thoughtless robots who accept sociopathic looter savages as normal and acceptable leaders.
        The producers of Atlas Shrugged are the only notable exception that I can think of and they are not Hollywood-connected.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago
          I can feel it, too, Freedom, and this must change. Producers are producers, They have the right to do what they wanted to do with their money, as far as nothing wrong is concerned, right ?

          American cinema is a stool of gold to bring ideas everywhere, YES - but this must be done in every possible ways - not just in one direction.
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