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The LockDown of The West Continues.

Posted by $ Flootus5 5 years, 4 months ago to Government
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On Friday, Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell announced a 3 year moratorium on coal leases on "federal" lands. With her for the photo-op was Republican sellout rinos, Governor Sandoval of Nevada, and Governor Mead of Wyoming. Recall, these two governors in particular were responsible for the Trojan Horse "non-listing" of the Greater Sage Grouse last year. For which the Approved Resource Management Plans will devastate the rural Western economies. And now this.

The War on The West is now in all out conflagration leading into this "hopefully" final year of naked federal tyranny. That is, unless Rino's prevail.

I know well what this does to the Powder River Basin economy. I used to work directly for the mentioned Colin Marshall of Cloud Peak Energy while it was still Rio Tinto Energy. This will specifically decimate the economies from Douglas, Wyoming on up to Gillette. But the downstream effect to all the jobs in the transporting of coal, the power plants, the energy grid and right into the homes of America, will be catastrophic.

Colin Marshall is quoted: “The administration has chosen to pander to special interest groups and do their bidding.” Right on.

Check these guys out:

http://socialistworker.org/2009/05/08...

This has been an agenda for awhile. Brian Sandoval and Matt Mead may just have to dust off their constitutions after all.

More:
http://www.9news.com/story/news/local...

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-n...
SOURCE URL: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/16/mining-moratorium-blow-to-wyomings-coal-industry.html


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  • Posted by ewv 5 years, 4 months ago
    It's not just their ongoing war on the west. The anti-industrial revolution of the misanthropic primitives is nation wide. Obama and Jewell are planning on massive National Monument decrees locking up Federally controlled resources and converting private property across the country, from "marine sanctuaries" against fishing in the oceans, to the war on Maine forestry, and across the country. This was planned from the beginning of the Obama administration and temporarily stalled when it leaked out through a FOIA by the House Resources Committee. The end of the lame duck administration feels more emboldened to impose its record-breaking nihilism.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      Very correct. I am familiar on the attack on Maine forestry. Although I am a 4 decades long western gold miner, my sister lives in Maine and is your classic 65 year old 60's hippie that still doesn't get it. And never will. Makes for interesting family politics.

      It is astounding, what has happened in the last several decades with this environmental movement thing. It plumbs the depths of the evisceration of the meaning of words to the blanket brainwashed acceptance of concepts that have no basis in reality. Astounding.
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  • Posted by ewv 5 years, 4 months ago
    "The War In The West: Time To Stop Federal Land Acquisition"
    Robert J. Smith

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/15/the...
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      Excellent overview article. But myself, having been at ground zero in these issues since the late 1970's could write a book on this matter. Oh, wait that's right, a two volume history of the public lands has been in the works for years now by yours truly. I can never finish it, because the final chapter just gets worse and worse and worse.

      I would add (to augment the article) that last year, the federal/State greenie-government complex has devised a way around the Endangered Species Act. With the huge Record of Decision on the Greater Sage Grouse they managed to set the precedent that by actually declaring the "non-listing" of the bird, they can actually impose far worse RMP's (Resource Management Plans) that actually have no definition of mitigations, and are subject to "review and revision" whenever they want.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 4 months ago
    There shouldnt even BE federal lands. All land should be private and not under Obama's control. Anyone who depends on federal decisions is a bit delusional- they can change their minds at a second's notice depending on political winds.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 5 years, 4 months ago
    Idiots would strangle their own newborn if told to do so by their political leaders - oh, wait, they already do, and it's called abortion! None of the war on coal surprises me, as connecting cause and effect is beyond the miscreants.

    Even renewables aren't free from attack. Here in Oklahoma, wind turbine construction is being challenged because it might disrupt the prairie chicken. We produce enough wind power to export it to other low wind states, but the power lines needed to transport the power have faced seven years of court challenges.

    Now the dimwits are wailing about how low oil and gas prices will sabotage renewable projects. If they pulled their heads out, they'd see the reduced cost of transport and construction as a blessing to big renewables. Hopeless.
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    • Posted by TheRealBill 5 years, 4 months ago
      I don't think they would see it. To see it would expose them to the fact that in order to increase renewables you will necessarily have to increase, if only temporarily, usage and reliance on oil, coal, and natural gas based energy. That would risk then realizing the faultiness of their claims regarding renewables' capabilities.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 5 years, 4 months ago
    The environment. The holy grail of lefties. It's a fall back whenever their stupid arguments fail to impress. Everyone wants to have clean air and water, and preservation of native flora and fauna. But, NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE and a roof overhead. The well-being of humanity comes first. Everything else falls below that in various degrees of importance. The left cries over the supposedly 33 million Americans living in poverty, and then performs actions which impoverishes people. I think the word for that is -- knucklehead.
    Not a Harley Davidson.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      And consider that so much is pulled off in the name of "the environment". What is it we are talking about here? The head of a pin can be called an environment and a wilderness. Everybody's gut is an environment with a complex "ecosystem" of biota.

      Wilderness is supposed to be a pristine "intact" ecosystem. There is no such thing. Wilderness starts just beyond the edge of the shoulder in the road. "The environment" is invoked to justify any socialist rip-off.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 5 years, 4 months ago
        There never was such a thing as a pristine, intact eco system even before homo sapiens inhabited the planet. Perhaps, in a Disney animated movie, but that's it.
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    • Posted by $ HeroWorship 5 years, 4 months ago
      Look up Pacchamama Alliance. They have their yearly convention this week. I am afraid of what they will come up with next.

      They are also an organization to model for grassroots viral activism - if it were used, for, let's say, Alex Epstein's Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, or his Energy Initiative.
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  • Posted by wiggys 5 years, 4 months ago
    I believe two coal mines have been shut near me in western Colorado.
    At what point do those adversely affected by all of this join the ranks of those in Oregon?
    If i weren't living through this period in America and was just told about it I wouldn't believe that a single man with the title president of the usa could get away with destroying what WAS the greatest country in the world ever. The separation of powers does not exist as was prescribed in the constitution. And those who were elected to be 1/3rd of that power structure from my perspective gave up their position a long time ago, so for someone like 0 stepping in to initiate these negative changes wasn't as far fetched as one would think. So the blame is not only 0 but every member of the congress, they are all in league.
    As soon as the ability to heat homes, shortage of food develops then the revolution will more than likely start.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      Remember the adage "Let them freeze in the dark"? Well, it is being imposed upon everyone.

      Back to the caves everyone, it is a bold new red errr green dawn coming!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 4 months ago
    Bituminous or Anthracite? The answer will lead to a targeted comment. Thank you
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      Much of the Powder River Basin coal is sub-bituminous to bituminous. Definitely only thermal coal. But low in sulfur, which in the 70-80's was an oh so relieving answer to acid rain. Then the government-greenie complex went on to concoct other problems such as carbon pollution in order to attack.

      I was based at one mine that averaged about 8000 BTU's on the northern end of the Basin and covered some of the mines in the southern end of the Basin that were a bit better at 9000-9500 BTU's. And also covered one in Colorado that was higher at 10,000+ BTU's. That was the Colowyo Mine near Craig, Colorado that the Wild Earth Guardians almost manage to shut down entirely last summer and fall. That mine directly feeds the Tri-State Plant just outside of Craig. Shut down the mine, you shut down the plant and thousands in a rural community are out of work. And electricity.

      As usual, the coal industry is way more complex that one would think. Power plants are actually designed to handle certain types of coal, based upon metallurgical aspects. Some coals are higher in ash content than others, some are higher in sodium. The furnaces are setup at different plants to accommodate their source of coal. This interdependence of design, contracts, and customer relations can be complex. When a certain type of coal mines are forced to shut down, the downstream ramifications are like dominoes.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 4 months ago
        You are so right, the coal industry is quite complex and made more so by government edicts. We have been working on a coal process for about 8 years that currently wrings an extra 20% energy out of the coal, but it has been a real challenge to get the coal fired power industry to accept the results. All our testing has been done (out of necessity) in regimes with lower government interference, i.e., places where there is more equal opportunity corruption.
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        • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
          Interesting. Does that process involve reducing moisture content in the coal? Moisture affects BTU's.

          Regimes with lower governmental interference! What a concept.

          Maybe you can generically describe who We are? Sounds like an R&D outfit?
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          • Posted by freedomforall 5 years, 4 months ago
            For lack of a more accurate term, it's a system that uses catalysts, and I can't reveal any details as there are ongoing negotiations with prospective partners. Yes, we are in R & D. If you represent a potential partner I may be able to arrange an introduction.
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            • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
              Understood exactly.

              I have been out of the coal business since 2008. No contacts anymore. After 7 years doing geotechnical work in the Powder River Basin, I returned to Nevada in the gold mining industry, where I had previously spent 15 years.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 5 years, 4 months ago
        Ah you see where I'm going. The difference between anthracite which did get shut down and bituminouos low sulfur is about 10-15% extra BTU and less pollutants. What isn't different is this story.

        Al Gore had lots of tobacco stock. Bad for his imagte so he sold it and reinveseted in local coal mining stocks.. Eastern coal is much lower in BTU per ton and much higher in acid rain type pollutants. Thank you so much Mr. Gore.....So they solve with carbon tax credit. Price to consumer goes up but what about pollutants?

        Then they shut down western coal high in BTUs alow in pollutants with manufactured add on requirements same as they did to the auto industry. VW does not need the US. they sell to the whole world. Gore gets rich off the backs of the lower economic classed who now pay more for less be it coal, polluted fuel with that ethanol crap added, cost off food etc and laugh at the fools that are still voting for them.

        Oregon for one used to be a net exporter of electricity. They are now an importer and Boardman is going shut down soon. I hope they choke on it. But they are too stupid to know they just took int he shorts and didn't check the vaseline for sand.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 5 years, 4 months ago
    As far as "federal land" goes I would, to the first approximation, open it all to auction and to a modernized Homestead Act. All auction proceeds go to pay of the federal debt.
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  • Posted by Donald-Brian-Lehoux 5 years, 4 months ago
    John Gault/Nikola Tesla Technology has been suppressed and this coal issue is moot!!!!! WAKE UP!!!!
    Divide and Conquer is what they do.
    Vote VETERAN someone that puts America before ANY party we come from ALL back grounds.
    No double standards put DC politicians on Obamacare and SS.Thanks for your support and vote.Pass the word. mrpresident2016.com
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  • Posted by Danno 5 years, 4 months ago
    Elect Trump. He will be the target for what follows but can stand it. Elect majorities in Congress aligned with Trump. Repeal ACA, build XL Pipeline, fast track coal and nuke power.
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    • Posted by $ 5 years, 4 months ago
      I wonder what we would hear if Trump were asked what is the best policy of the public lands. Not just public land policy as determined by the feds, but also in context of the alternative of passing them to the States with traditional mechanisms of disposal being adopted by the States should they choose to do do.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 5 years, 4 months ago
    The inmates and the sellout RINOs are now firmly in control. Agenda XXI (let's get everyone living in 7 unified residential zones in the country!) is here, all thanks to the "Sustainable" development crowd!!!
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