All Comments

  • Posted by H2ungar123 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm sure the folks -those who posted things
    that misinterpret etc.etc. - are very
    happy that you took it upon yourself
    to"correct" them. Also sure they
    can handle your well=meant
    "corrections' - Amen brother
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by Robbie53024 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, OK. I didn't scroll that far up to see the first instance. So sue me.

    As for clarification, when folks here post things that misinterpret Christian teaching, I will correct them. If they cannot handle that, that is their problem.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Solver 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    From Google:

    noun: humility - a modest or low view of one's own importance; humbleness.
    adjective: humble - having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by H2ungar123 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I first saw -and I quote - (And it's one of the seven deadly sins) stated by LetsShrug. U
    are the one going on about "Catholic re-
    ligious teaching" in an attempt to clarify what Iddidn't need any 'clarification' in my opinion. I heard her words pronto.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by Robbie53024 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Not at all. That's exactly what I was talking about. And at least Catholic teaching is very clear on that point.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Zenphamy 12 years, 1 month ago
    This is one of my favorite of all time quotes of AR. Pride in self accomplishment and happiness is the greatest self motivator imaginable.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Zenphamy 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You're conflating bragging with pride in one's self, as does pretty much all Christian teaching to one extent or the other.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Zenphamy 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    What is wrong with being honest with other people about your accomplishments or their lack of accomplishment.

    I can carpenter, but I'm not great at it and I'm appreciative of a good carpenter telling me or showing me a better way to do it.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Zenphamy 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Society and religion do the teaching.

    Humility is for those that deserve it. Pride is for those that earn it.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by TheBestWithinUs 12 years, 1 month ago
    Lionel the http://dictionary.com entry you refer people to does list these synonyms:

    Synonyms
    lowliness, meekness, submissiveness.

    These, especially the last , will not do for an Objectivist.

    Surely you noticed the relation between humility and humiliation.

    Finally, the etymology section fails to mention that humble ultimately derives from the Latin word for dirt, the stuff you walk on.

    You should be aware of your limitations and avoid excessive boastfulness, but there are better words.


    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the various means of destroying would be others attempting to instill guilt via displaying hurt feelings or negative opinions of the achiever. Or making demands on one's wealth because others need it more.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm and no mention of how people should be happy for other people's accomplishments and view them as an example of achievement. People and their precious hurt feelings... grow up and stop looking for excuses that can be blamed on others.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    yes. I have talked many times about the concept of "giving back."
    what's all this humility stuff? does that mean you have to suffer fools? sign me up!
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I kinda see this as a strawman. why do I only have two choices? either humble (which I am NOT) or boastful (which if someone levels me with that I ask them to check their premises). Boasting and preening are not productive, therefore illogical. If you are going to be humble on me-I have to work Harder to figure out what I have in you. waste of time. you're about as humble as a ...
    I can't respond to sin stuff-not on my radar
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by Robbie53024 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Humility, or being humble, is not a negative - it is merely not being boastful and holding your accomplishments above others so as to make them ashamed of their level of accomplishment. Not everyone has the same abilities. Catholic teaching is that one should strive to accomplish all that they are capable of, and to do less is a sin in that you did not use the gifts that God gave you. It is not disingenuous to not boast and preen of one's own accomplishments at the expense of others. That is merely good manners and politeness. It doesn't mean that you cannot feel pride in your accomplishments, not that you should shun being awarded/rewarded for your accomplishments, merely that you shouldn't go out of your way to be boastful so as to make others feel less accomplished because they didn't accomplish what you have, especially if they have done the best that they can do given their own talents.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by Robbie53024 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, this is a misinterpretation of scripture teaching. What the bible teaches is not to be boastful, holding yourself above others. It doesn't mean that you cannot feel pride in your accomplishments. In fact Catholic religious teaching is that you should aspire to "be all that you can be," to borrow a phrase from the Army. Just that you shouldn't then be boastful and throw your own success in the faces of others, so as to cause them to be sad about their own capabilities.

    There is so much that AR got wrong about religious teaching that if she had merely taken the time to study some, she might have had a different take on things.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by H2ungar123 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks much for this. Being one of the seven deadly sins, I always felt squeamish about taking pride in something I might have done for myself or another. But you are so right. It's not about being a deadly sin. It is
    Society teaching us NOT to be proud. I think
    THAT'S the 'deadly' sin. Again, thank you.


    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by LetsShrug 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You can be gracious without the guilt. It just isn't taught that way and that's where it goes wrong. Giving back and all the other guilt riddled crap.
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo