Anyone else interested in a Galt-style community in New Zealand?

Posted by RebelCelt 9 years, 3 months ago to Business
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Looking at opening up a beachfront coastal ranch and community in New Zealand and curious to know if anyone here would have any interest?


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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is true up to the 5 year mark basically. They wanted to avoid a commitment over a 99-year term etc style. If you're not making that commitment in a relatively timely manner then it's not a very serious commitment in their eyes,which I can understand
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I spent December 2014 and November 2015 in Chile and I am heading back in March for another month. Obviously I like the place.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The terms have completely different meanings in different countries. Don't use our ever changing definitions for anyone else anywhere else. They don't mean much here for more than a few minutes as you will know. One mis defined common is calling certain countries socialist when they are not. Every one is capitalist with some social program aspirations. Is it time for another lesson in realpolitik again?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Without restriction. That leaves a total of none. Their country. Their rules. Our country? Come to think of it. Their rules.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 3 months ago
    I personally wouldn't be interested in anything that doesn't allow private firearms ownership.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been researching Chile. It certainly has promise. While it ran, I also regularly listened to the podcast "Red Hot Chile". I once sent the host an email with a question and he read it. As I sat working in my office alone one Saturday morning I listened to his response on the podcast. Pretty neat.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 3 months ago
    Yes. Please include me on any related info.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe your third paragraph is mistaken. US federal law doesn't allow any state except the state of residence to tax retirement income, so a retired Californian in Oregon would not pay California tax.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess my point was that if you have contracted and are liable for debt on the purchase, there is some justification that the entire purchase price of the property should be included even if you only put up 20% of the purchase price. However, in my experience, feedback from NZ immigration agents is obscure at best. When I was applying, I wanted to give just enough data to meet the requirements and maintain some financial privacy, but immigration does not tell you what they actually want in enough detail to do that. They are fishing for as much data you will volunteer. Its a government agency.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a good question and I honestly dont't know, but I think the rule is that you have 5 years to make that level of investment (equity) and as long as you're under contract, that would qualify.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's pretty reasonable and can include the purchase of real estate. Also, once you own land, it's essentially a guarantee of entry. Full on residency and access to public services has a slightly higher but still modest threshold of $200k (New Zealand) or $135k +/- US Dollar and again, real estate purchase/investment can count towards that.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    fewer than 100 families total.Email me for details and to discuss. Justin@PaoroStation.co.nz
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  • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Socialized medicine, as a base yes, (there are direct pay options outside the socialized system) but with accountability measures that prevent abuse. An example is that those on public assistance are required to drug-test,and the "PC" culture of the US is almost non-existent outside Auckland, and by no means as deep even in Auckland. Public broadcasters and politicians routinely and frequently say things that would result in PC firings/dismissals in the States.

    And most interestingly, in a country with 1 firearm per 3 people, the police are literally not allowed to carry firearms on their person. The guns are in the hands of the citizenry, not a police/military state.
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