Kasich puts up Trump-Putin 2016 website

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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whatta joke! -- j
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Its Hillary or Trump at this point, unless some white knight comes in at the last minute. Would you rather Hillary?
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    one would think that in NH, people would BE conservative, but obviously not if they are voting for Sanders.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    jet,
    the usa is going through the change from a free country to a socialist country. the change has been going on for over 100 years and depending upon your age, if young enough you will experience seeing all of this happen. my family came here from minsk about 1900 or so, so i had the benefit of growing up in a relatively free country but that has all changed. maybe some will heed your advice.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello ewv,
    The electoral college... our votes are only symbolic at best... if the power brokers want it so. The Republicrats will continue to convince the masses that any third party rival is a wasted vote. The MSM will foster the notion and pragmatism will continue in the voting booth... for what it is worth.
    Unless the minds of many more, especially the youth, are properly instructed and more attention is paid to local and state elections then the pool from whence most of these statist abominations spring will grow.

    Vote to cut off another toe, but save the foot, or vote as a political statement for a third party, or abstain which is at best a statement or irrelevant; you can save some of your liberty, or you can shout while they take more, or you can remain silent while they take more... There is one more choice; you can support the candidate that wishes to do the most damage, or good, depending upon perspective.
    Yes, it is "a choice under very limited constraints."
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The election does not allow for choosing slavery or liberty. The only choice on the ballot is between two statists of different degrees in different respects. Attempting to discern which is worse, if there is enough difference to matter, and voting accordingly is not an endorsement or choice for slavery. Self defense against a worse statist does not make one responsible for the statism. The character of the candidates and what they stand for is decided long before the election.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump versus Cackles is a false alternative. The primary voting hasn't even started yet. There is no reason to support Trump.

    Whoever is left in the final election almost a year from now, a vote -- if there is enough difference to vote at all -- is not an endorsement, it's a choice under very limited constraints.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    -- and that it's plausible and no surprise that an unprincipled Pragmatist like Trump would say such a thing.

    The "cultural barometer" of significance in the Trump campaign is that so many people mindlessly support him just because some of the things he says are filling a vacuum, without regard for what else he says, does, and advocates in the name of "deals" for anything regardless of what it is.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Power over other people under fascism is not "personal strength".

    The purpose of government is to protect our rights, not make "deals".

    You should ask yourself why Putin sees so much in Trump to praise and what he expects to get from it politically.
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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Regardless of what you think about the value of your vote, you still continually espouse support for Trump to any that will listen. Thousands like you, influencing others, could give us the 'American dictator' you likely didn't see coming.

    When it's your rights and those of your family that are sacrificed by one of his "negotiations", your "but, I didn't think he would" won't carry much value.

    Lady Liberty is drowning in a sea of Pragmatism. Getting in a boat with a bloviating statist is not "rescue".
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  • Posted by livefree-NH 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Statistically, your vote counts less towards the final result than it does for, say, deciding which charity to donate to, or voting as part of a jury in a criminal trial. As long as your vote is a hanging chad which is within roundoff error, you might as well just mail it in. On the other hand, if you engage some of the other voters in conversation while you are at the polling place, at least you will find out how your neighbors are thinking, and maybe even find some like-minded people just like we do on this site.

    Here in NH I notice that most of the people who are going to vote democrat, kinda keep to themselves at the polling place because they know it's not popular to talk about - it's only fun to talk politics when they are making fun of conservatives.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago
    Har-de-har,har. Very funny.
    Putin's Translator: "Ve vill agonize, er, organize a new country so powerful that no one vill efen try to challenge us.Of course, Pressident Trump vill recognize me as leader .
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 6 months ago
    Um... Didn't Kasich just throw in the towel??

    My suspicion is the left is running scared and is trying to pull whatever dirty tricks they can think of... or an ISIL destabilization web-hack... Whoever it is, they fear a strong president, so they need to try to take out the one person who will endanger the status quo of decline into the morass, and possibly be another president like Reagan was on Iran...

    Whoever it was knows that John Q Public will not know how to dig to uncover who really sent this. If you ever watch them, the whole thing sounds way too much like a Comedy Central parody propaganda spot...
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 6 months ago
    trump is now showing us just how stupid he is!!!!!!!!!
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I could only imagine what would happen if Trumps advisers tried to BS him !!! I think the impression of Trump as a wild card is probably somewhat off the mark. I think he is bringing out things to discuss, but I really doubt he would do stupid things if elected. He seemed to be pretty level headed in his business dealings to be as successful as he is.
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  • Posted by jetmec 9 years, 6 months ago
    Is this for real? Any one who backs or likes Putin must have a few screws loose! ( Sorry I live in Ukraine ) Remember you can vote out freedom but you need to fight to get it back
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm truly glad that Bush isn't getting the traction -- and that none of the insiders are. I'm tired of Republicans helping Democrats build the collective state. I don't pretend that either Trump or Cruz are Objectivists or libertarians, but I'm definitely a lesser of two evils guy. The statists are perfectly willing to string partial victories together, why not have partial victories in the direction of freedom?

    I try not to get excited about things like the marriage issue. This is in the hands of the Supreme Court and even the ability to nominate a Supreme Court justice doesn't give the President much control over it.

    Cruiz is definitely intelligent and would, in my opinion, move the ball in our direction. I think Trump would as well, but he's a wild card. I do think that Trump knows how to build and manage a good team. I would expect him to surround himself with competent staff rather than ideologues.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like the "none of the above" vote if it counted as a real vote to diminish the votes of the other candidates. But our system doesnt seem to want that. It wants elections to be landslides forcing everyone to submit even though half the people dont vote at all (prob means they are voting 'none of the above")
    The electoral college seems to be there to tilt the scales in a big way so people fall into line. This is not a scientific analysis, BUT it seems like even if the popular vote is close, the electoral college votes are heavily skewed one way or the other. Just an observation.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Every day we pick the better of the alternatives available, whether in refrigerators or politics. My vote isnt going to make a bit of difference in this election really. I wish I could vote "none of the above" and have that count as an any other vote. Maybe that could make a difference.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would vote for Rand Paul, but in this environment he isnt going to be able to win an election. Cruz, being a religious zealot of sorts, bothers me. The last straw was his desire to keep legal marriage only between religiously approved boundaries (which seems a bit stupid). The only one who really doesnt pump religion in government is Trump these days. Religion, with its dogmas and unyielding beliefs really doesnt belong in government at all.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've always liked the idea of being able to vote for "None of the above." Maybe this time I can.
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