Ask around the nursery operations...A lot of trees are brought in from major production areas where they grow faster. Usually three to seven years. The small ones are the thinnings from the larger ones. It's a double or triple rotation and a very profitable business as now the crews come in and do all the cutting, wrapping and loading. Ask about getting more than one starter and your local nursery might order it up on speculation.

Try Google....takes about five seconds.

Amazon has Norfolk Pine for $31.09 This year it's table top size , Next year bigger and after a while you got one for the National Christmas Tree.

Add to the mix growing a large chunk of your own food.

Seeing them in the breadlines is worth a thumbs up. That's a problem Obama can solve with a stroke of a calculator key.

most of the hoopla involves very very low competently predicted range changes. the impending mini ice age for example will wipe out the maybe is maybe isn't warming trend. About 1.5 C over 200 or 300 years.

What's it all mean? At worst. Canada grows more winter wheat. The US grows lots of bananas and Mexico gets year round mangos. What's the problem?

to.... FFA Since your post on taxing the sun disappeared I'll comment here...no it's not in trash or spam this time..


California did try to tax the wind a number of years ago. Actually it was Oakland Representative "Red" Ron Dellums who noticed the sailboats while crossing the bay bridge and decided they weren't paying their fair share of fuel tax and anti pollution tax and decided to do a tax based on square footage of the sails. It was turned down with much amusement in the Hallowed Halls of Congress DC. But these days i doubt that would have stopped it. The joke was the sport had just been applauded for keeping pollution down. Red by the way did not have Red hair. he was the other Communist in office along with Bernie Sanders.

Sonora desert did this year most definitely. One of our local wits did a paragraph about why he couldn't find his favorite rock. It wasn't as hot this year nor the one before as the two prior to that by a good ten degrees. 2012 and 2013 saw many110 and some 115 degree days while 2014 and 2015 stayed at or a bit over 100 to 105.

Boat or land you will have to retrain and reequip yourself even for such simple things as cooking and washing up. Along with Solar and wind energy which produce together a third element is gas with CNG preferable if you can get it otherwise LPG. Tasks that take much energy in short periods of time such as ovens or even heating the ever efficient pressure cooker expend less from gas so it fills a niche. Heating water is made possible by coiling or laying a network of piping just inside the roof of the house. The water is preheated and then brought to a boil by other means or on it's own suffices for showers and laundry purposes. Everything that can be converted to 12 volt is and that takes time and another investment.. The joy is when done and the amortization years start....the bills iyou are now paying for fuel drop dramatically. Still such things as Air conditioning are available if the house is weatherproofed and laid out to take advantage of the sun in some areas and protected in others. For a 30 -40 foot boat it's much simpler. Space dictates what you can and cannot have. Day temperatures dictate doing some jobs at night whee the need is home made light for reading and other such chores. cooking is done in advance during the cool of the night then quickly heated if necessary but cold meals tend to take over during summer months.

Lots of books on the subjects but try touring some cruising type sail boats in a local marina....you will not need the corrosion resistance we require but the ideas and technology are the same...

I am more interested in whether the tree is created or here by accident. Riddle me this.