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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 4 months ago
    It doesn't matter whether the murders by guns is up, down or sideways. In a free society, property confiscation without a damn good reason should be prohibited. To date, in the case of guns, such a reason has not been put forth. And even in the case of damn good reasons, special scrutiny should be exercised before making any decision. The ownership of property, any property, is paramount to the keeping of citizens from an overreaching government.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 8 years, 4 months ago
    The argument about gun ownership versus gun crime is secondary at best. The fundamental reason for owning weaponry is for protection against enemies foreign and domestic, which includes "keeping the government honest." The major totalitarian governments of the 20th century eliminated unarmed dissent by first eliminating private ownership of firearms.
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  • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 4 months ago
    What a super statistic to see on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. I know that all of you have heard this quip, but it's worth repeating:... "Definition of gun control is a steady hand."
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 4 months ago
    1- the second amendment was enacted to prevent the government from making gun ownership illegal for citizens. This keeps the government from getting out of hand and allows people to take control of their personal safety.

    #2- Obviously the police do little to insure personal safety. They come and 'investigate" after the crime has been committed. But the victims are right there and could protect themselves easily if they had the tools. The answer is more personal protection items (not just guns), and offensive weapons to be used when governments are out of control.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 4 months ago
    Send the truth that is that chart to the great and powerful Emperor O or to Broom Hillary, it would be immediately shredded.
    Dems can't climate change handle the truth.
    It interferes with a lust for power and control.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 4 months ago
    I wonder if we can get this information plastered all over the media so the lame brains like 0 and h and bloomberg etc can learn something about the american people.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 4 months ago
      Sadly, there is no reasoning with the more passionate gun control cadre, any more than you can get the climate change cult to engage in rational discourse. They have been so saturated with the idea that everyone lies to support their convictions, and facts are merely numbers generated to support their version of "the truth."

      I used to rely on the old saying,"You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts." The progressive herd have moved beyond such restrictive views, and see nothing utterly illogical in saying, "But those are YOUR facts!" Adhering to their concept that "facts" are merely whatever supports your position, and not concrete things.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 4 months ago
    There certainly could be a connection. No one has a sign indicating no gun are allowed in a house b/c we intuitively know that would not discourage criminals.

    I think it's awsome, though, that crime is down so sharply. If it's more families owning guns, that's a good thing too. A lot of things are going right in the world.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 4 months ago
    Of course this is speculation on my part but...just think what would happen to the homicide rate if we did not have the killing zones, or I mean gun free zones.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago
      I think they are a small percentage of the homicides recorded; the "gun control nuts" just covertly mislead regarding its statistical significance.
      Elimination of those zones would make a big difference to potential victims families though.
      I think ending the Drug War would have a bigger effect reducing gun homicides, imo.

      Homicides using firearms have been about 8500-9000 per year for the five years 2009-2014. I found lots of articles with conflicting stats on gun free zones online, but none that actually say how many have died in gun free zones. Its like neither side wants to state the data because they know the other side will poke holes in the argument used. imo, they both are GIGO.
      Based on my recollection, mass shootings each year are miniscule compared to the 9000 gun homicides. This article estimates that Drug War related homicides are at least 1100 per year:
      http://narcosphere.narconews.com/note...
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 4 months ago
        I agree with you on scaling back the Drug War. In fact not only would we empty the prisons, save money on policing and eliminate a source of income for criminal organizations, but those individuals that over imbibed and died would remove them selves from humanity and thereby no longer be a liability. IE: We would introduce an additional method of natural selection.
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