Women in combat

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years, 11 months ago to Government
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As of October 2015, 161 women have lost their lives and 1,016 had been wounded in action as part of Global War on Terror (GWOT) operations... In addition, in modern combat operations, over 9,000 women have received Army Combat Action Badges for “actively engaging or being engaged by the enemy,” and two have received Silver Stars for “gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States.” -- *Women in Combat: Issues for Congress" Congressional Research Service publication number 7-5700 / R42075 at http://www.crs.gov


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    In 2016 the army is opening all combat jobs to women.
    In 2016 they are also asking for women to be included in the draft system.
    The USMC has no reason to change anything they do.
    The Navy is ...who knows where.Still figuring out ethnic exceptions to weight control probably.
    The Air Force is still got it's head in outer space or an inner space trying to justify abandoning the infantry....again._

    Why not? About time they got to be first class citizens which means... All rights and ALL responsibilities.

    Besides it might help to get that Military Conscription Act off the books. And that will mean one extra victory on the road to....

    Heinlein "if it's worth doing enough will step forward If enough do not step forward it's not worth doing"

    As a 24 year veteran of the combat arms and none of it as a draftee i couldn't agree more.

    Then maybe the available military force structure will be treated as something better than a. cannon fodder and b. the greatest danger this government is facing.

    _It's time the Army got it's own Front Line Aviation support starting with transferring the remaining A-10's. It's hard to get close air support from the whiz by squadrons
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is a fact of war that prisoners are tortured and killed. The so-called "Geneva Convention" only dates to 1949 and only applies to the few who signed it. Of course, US policy has differed from that as the practices at Guantanamo demonstrated.

    A few feminist thinkers have argued that our stigmatizing rape only encourages it. The puritan and prurient are two sides of the same coin. I point out that when someone punches you in the nose, it is not a separate crime of "nasal assault" which we feel uncomfortable to discuss. An assault is an assault. That said, as an aside, the rape of young men by their own sergeants during training is not an open subject. On that note, which would you find worse: being raped once by your sergeant or being waterboarded 138 times?

    It seems that every civilization has developed some rules for war that protect innocents and combatants who have surrendered. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_... That being as it may, we humans have a range of behaviors. Among some cultures from primitives in New Guinea to 19th century German youths at university, combat is highly ritualized so that no one really gets hurt -- much as male animals vie for status with displays. On the other hand, Japanese warriors of the Tokugawa Shogunate invented seppuku ("hari-kiri" we call in the West), as the final escape from capture and disgrace -- because if you were captured, you would be tortured to death slowly for amusement. Native Americans had pretty much the same view. (I do point out that some tribes just killed men in order to absorb the women and children. However, as Wikiepedia notes, our own Declaration of Independence speaks differently on that.)

    When the French nobles surrendered at Agincourt, they expected to be ransomed back to their families. Instead, sitting on the ground, in their armor, without their helmets, helpless as turtles, their throats were cut. The rules of war had been violated.

    Perhaps it should be acknowledged that in war, there are no rules. But we do have customs. In our house, we are fans of The West Wing series. (My conservative comrades seem to misunderstand the show.) Current events underscore two lines spoken by Admiral Fitzwallace. (1) We try to minimize collateral damage, while they seek to maximize it. (2) In the recent San Bernardino terrorist attacks, Tashfeen Malik left her six-month old daughter with relatives. Admiral Fitzwallace's line: "You are talking about the laws of nations? These people do not even recognize the laws of nature."
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 11 months ago
    If you read the report, you will see that women already have been in combat. In 1902, the first nurses's corps was established. This report only recognizes an existing fact. Here in the Gulch, I linked to my review of Love My Rifle More than You by Kayla WIlliams. As a translator, she was placed in a forward infantry team. She was not the only woman translator in combat. At that time, they were not formally listed as combat troops, which had ramifications for what promotions and award they were entitled to. But the fact remains, as the statistics cited above show.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 9 years, 11 months ago
    With asymmetric warfare becoming a larger and larger part of the combat equation, there is no longer a 'front line'.Either allow them to full combat status or remove them from the theater of operations entirely. Coming from a background of gender equality (Mom worked just as hard as Dad, doing the same job, and Dad cooked, cleaned house and cleaned dirty baby butts, too), I know on which side I favor. The only caveat: the women better be mentally ready to accept what happens if captured. Death isn't the worst of it.
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