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Democrats secret and not secret agents...

Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago to News
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I've been depicting Fiorini as the perfect Democrat secret sleeper agent. That Is still more true than not. But it's only my opinion - well - not only. Now we find the second agent depicted by Mona Charon's column on Dec 9th. That's today!!!

She lays out her case in no nonsense straight forward terms. Question inow is how many of his approval number came from the left to begin with. Who? Trump the life long Democrat turned RINO. Who else as an opponent would bandaid the left back together?


http://townhall.com Mona Charon

The dictionary defines "bogeyman" as "an imaginary evil spirit, referred to typically to frighten children." Hello, Donald Trump. It's not clear whether he set out intentionally to elect Hillary Clinton, but there is little question that he could not be fulfilling the role of Republican bogeyman to greater effect.

As Commentary's Jonathan Tobin noted, during a week in which the disastrous fecklessness of President Obama and his party in the face of terrorism ought to have been Topic A, we are all talking about Trump instead. Brilliant. Tobin's point actually applies to the entire presidential contest. By rights, it should be about the Democrats' unraveling. From Obamacare to terrorism, from the economy to climate change, and from guns to free speech, progressive policies have proven deeply disappointing when not downright obtuse and dangerous. Clinton promises more of the same while trailing an oil slick of corruption in her wake. And yet swinging into the frame, week in and week out, the orange-maned billionaire bogeyman dominates the discussion.

Hell yes, Republicans are anti-Hispanic bigots, Trump (a lifelong Democrat) is supposed to confirm. Just look at the way he talked about Mexican "rapists" and vowed to build a wall that Mexico will fund.

Hell yes, Republicans want to fight a war on women. Did you hear what Trump said about Megyn Kelly and Carly Fiorina?

Hell yes, Republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-handicapped, anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim. Line 'em up and Trump will offend. Not cleverly, mind you, but crudely. Donald Trump is fond of saying that our political leaders are stupid, constantly outmaneuvered at the bargaining table by shrewder Chinese, Mexicans, and Japanese. No one can accuse him of stupidity: provided his goal is to elect Hillary Clinton.

This week, while we were still burying our dead from San Bernardino, every Republican -- rather than explaining why President Obama's refusal to fight the war on terror has led to this moment -- instead had to condemn Donald Trump's mindless proposal to keep every single Muslim out of the United States until further notice. Again, he's the perfect bogeyman.

It's not just that what he says demands condemnation. It's that it seems to give credence to the Democrats' narrative.

Personally when I listen to or read about Trump I'm reminded of the climb to power int he 20's and 30's of the last century by an ex German Army Corporal who also had a hair problem..on his lip.


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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good comment. Sorry someone down voted. I voted you back up. I am referring to blackswan's comment.
    Edit: clarity
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump is a socialist corporatist as a business method but then so are all looters and moochers unless they are socialist statists.

    He's already done sexist and racist remarks openly as will as religious bigotry so I think a comparison to potential Seig Heiler type president is completely on target. There is no disconnect except from the Constitution and egotistical arrogance.

    The last sentence is an authorized power IF there is invasion and now we have that along with suspending habeas corpus. Doesn't say invasion by a country. Like most he's using the new definition of Declaration of War.

    By the way in another post I traced the socialist inept private market comment attributed to Gates and it was a false report with one media copying the other without checking...

    I did not excuse him his business model ....
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "in fact brags about all of the politicians he's bought, including Hillary Clinton"
    This is very powerful to me. It's hard for politicians to criticize money in politics when they need to participate in it to get elected. Trump comes right out and says that he contributes to politicians and they do what he wants. He brings the problem out in the open in way everyone can understand.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The difference is in the fact that Trump denies nothing he's justly criticized for, while our current "Dear Leader" hides his records and denies he's said things that are on the record. The difference is between being unashamed, and having no shame.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's a certain brand of American populism, going all the way back to Andrew Jackson, but the brand was more characterized by William Jennings Bryan, where the well being of the nation's citizenry as a whole is the focus. Long's message was almost entirely focused on economic well-being. The fact he was very much a socialist is a disconnect in comparing him to Trump, but he had a similar flair for controversial statements.

    For Hitler, the appeal was almost entirely to race, more like Louis Farrakhan. Hitler didn't think of Jews as a religion or social element, but as a poison racial element.

    Trump's statements about Muslims aren't focused on race (Muslims come in all racial flavors), but on a concern followers of that religion have an undue percentage of violence-prone participants. Nothing in the Constitution demands that America has to accept all who want to come here, and Presidents in the past have restricted entry for a variety of reasons.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't vote for evil.
    Anyone who is selected by the statist party (R|D) is evil, corrupted, co-opted. It either wins, we lose, so don't consent. Check your premises. A=A.
    If she was alive, Rand would be writing scathing editorials in the Objectivist against all these pretender puppets.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't know about Binswanger's immigration views.
    early on, I thought that Jindal might be a great pres,
    but the list got so long and he entered so late that I
    lost hope. . and there are people here in the gulch who
    think that Carly is a bad choice. . but maybe she has
    changed? -- j
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No other than those I mentioned and it's a very short list and certainly not all are insiders. I extended it to those that could be used Binswanger then is the one and only and why did you pick him?

    We really don't have any other known quantities or usable quantities. Outsider an individual of caliber would be George Allison taught at Wake Forest and is now with Cato Institute famous for teaching all his 30,000 employees. Objectivist principles and for refusing to voluntarily deal with toxic government in his banks loan portfolio. Resigned when the government pulled a forced takeover of an otherwise solvent institution as part of the cover up for their part in the 2008 crash.

    Insider to some extent and capable of acting as a rally point...possibly but not viable on their own so only VP material are Jindal and Webb. Binswanger in principle but in realistic terms his open immigration stance at this point in time...no go.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you mentioned "one of our insiders" like you had someone
    in mind -- Our Insiders might be a short list starting with
    Yaron Brook except that I read that he's Israeli ... so, who
    else? . Harry Binswanger? . where's Galt when we need him? -- j
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True and worth a point but I still completely fail to see how choosing another left wing socialist fascist is going to make any change for the better. Was Adolf a better choice than Stalin?

    If you can't win then don't play. If that isn't good enough then vote for the most acceptable alternative that can win and screw the GD polls.

    It isn't about being the problem it's about having to deal with no answers except elect a socialist fascist and calling it good and saying whine there are no other choices and rejecting everything offered while offering none of your own except an equal value evil.

    Look in the mirror.... you will see the problem.

    As for not being discussed without Comrade Trump you haven't been around long enough to make that evaluation. I haven't been around long enough to make that sort of evaluation but I suspect the discussion is measured in decades not years.

    So besides sneering at objectivists why not lay out your philosophy and your plan? Surely it has to have more substance than vote Trump. you started with 1 gave you 1 you still have 1. Someone doesn't agree with my leniency
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are looking for a way out. It's not about polls it's about what each individual believes. Of course they are biased. Nothing new there. the question is what is the best course of action and that's an individual decision for anyone except a leftist. .
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know you're saying it's not what it looks like to Democrats: "the overwhelming bulk of non-Democrat American voters is a pack of "Idiocracy"-caliber simpletons" But what is it? Could the polls be biased? Could Trump and Democrats be using their connections to somehow tinker with the polls?
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Second paragraph the answer is both.

    Don't mistake my Fiorini Jindahl suggestion for supporting Republicans. At best they are all believers in government over people. The suggestion is meant as a method of revenge on my part after 24 years of protecting a myth only to find out the great unwashed voted it down the toilet in favor of that which we were sent out to kill. Only to return and have to ask where the F is my country?" i intend it as a political IED against those that betrayed us and the Constitution we swore to protect and defend. Democrats and Republicans alike. The fuse was lit by a Commander-In-Chief who labeled us as his government's greatest danger and in doing so became by the definition of my oath of office an enemy domestic. Time for a counter revolution and I sincerely hope the active military agrees. Signs and recent actions are they leaning that way. - without purposes of evasion. If for no other reason believe in supporting them as they are the only legal means of regaining what we have lost.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What I remember was. "it's 3 am (showing a child sleeping)... When 3 am actually came around, not only was she not around, but she let 4 Americans die, and then lied about it. That was worse than Johnson and McNamara putting us in harm's way for no good purpose. She's done, as far as I'm concerned. As for Trump, if he wins, he's much more likely to be there at 3 am than any, or at least most, of the others, just because that's the way he is. He's not going to let someone else outstage him; his ego won't take that. I also think he'll get rid of more of Obama's abominations than any of the others. Why? If he wasn't there, virtually ALL of the issues that are currently being discussed wouldn't have been discussed at all. He's highlighting many of the problems that we face; notice that none of the others are being proactive enough to bring up any issues other than the ones he brings up. Where are their platforms?!? They're all reacting to him. A platform can't be made of just tax reform. Obama has done so much damage in so many places, that you could virtually shoot in any direction and hit something that needs fixing. No one is doing that. THAT's why Trump has a good shot a winning, bombast and all. Anyone who is going to let Hillary win, because he doesn't like the alternative, because it isn't "pure" enough, will rue the day. THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, and until there is, you play the hand you're dealt. Just as you steer an aircraft carrier around a little at a time, so you must steer this country around, a little at a time. That's what the "progressives" did. It took them over 100 years to get here. They did it a little at a time. If you think that some "pure" objectivist is going to jump out of a cake and turn everything around, then you're the problem.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 9 years, 7 months ago
    After espousing center-Left views and bankrolling hard-Left candidates his entire life (and for someone who's made his fortune via the careful management of money, the people to whom he donates that money has to be a reflection of his deepest values,) the world may never know whether Trump just had a comprehensive change of ideology, or whether he's a Democrat saboteur, charged with the task of making a circus of the first Republican primary with a decent lineup of actual Republicans since election year 1984.

    What's clear is that one of two things is true. Either a.) the overwhelming bulk of non-Democrat American voters is a pack of "Idiocracy"-caliber simpletons, or b.) the Republican rank-and-file voters have utterly lost control of the primary process of their own party. Neither of which is a particularly appealing scenario.

    Like a lot of people here, I was a Day One Tea Partier - actually a lifelong Tea Partier, when you consider that the Tea Party is just a synonym for "core Republican." The two animating issues that gave rise to the Tea Party phenomenon were a.) backlash against the spectacle that was the Dodd / Frank mortgage corporatism and the Bush / Paulson / Bernanke bailout of same, and b.) the shocked realization that the Republican Party had become infiltrated with a veritable cancer - metastasizing and malignant - of RINOism. It's demand was simple: Eradicate both problems.

    Trump is a perfect poster-boy for corporatism (he's openly boasted about it at every one of the debates thus far,) and for RINOism (see: his political record, up to the point where he decided to start calling himself a Republican.)

    Yet here we are in December of 2015, and "the polls" tell us that this anti-Republican juggernaut is "the frontrunner."

    True, even a single week is an eternity within a campaign, and nobody can predict what will happen between now and the convention - but we've got saturation-media promotion of Trump and a near-total Spike of Cruz, of Fiorina, of Paul, of Rubio - to say nothing of the "second-tier" candidates like Jindal.

    I don't know whether to believe the polls - if they're accurate then the Tea Party influence on Republicanism is deceased, along with Republicanism itself - or whether to think this whole Trump circus is an elaborate "monkeywrenching" of the most promising Republican primary in thirty years.

    The entire spectacle is profoundly disheartening. Trump would almost certainly be less catastrophic for the country as President than Clinton or Sanders - in the short term. But his unfocused hash of generally noxious beliefs, his shocking shallowness on foreign policy issues (have a look at Robert Tracinski's quote of the second debate transcript, in his article "Has the Real Republican Frontrunner Just Stood Up?") and his utter obliviousness to the Constitution mean that he would accomplish little or nothing of what must be accomplished (the rollback of entire swaths of big government,) and is precisely not what the country needs in a President at this point in history.

    I can only hope that worthy candidates like Cruz and Fiorina can step up their game and blow through that monolithic media blackout, and that this imposter Trump will fade deservedly. Paul disqualifies himself every time he opens his mouth on national defense, so I'm thinking he's of far greater value in Congress (where voting wrong on one issue is vastly outweighed by voting right on dozens of others.) Rubio, like Fiorina, would be a longshot - and he's too much of a "nice guy" personality for the hard-nosed decisions the 2017 President will need to be making on a daily basis. Jindal is an also-ran with zero chance of getting anywhere.

    If the situation ca. 12-10-15 is any indication of what will happen in Cleveland next July, then I will be throwing my vote on a write-in, and thereafter giving up on politics. If we've descended to the level where Donald Trump is the only option in opposition to the national socialism of a Clinton or Sanders, then there is no hope for this country. The situation reminds me of the dire assessment Peikoff did in "Ominous Parallels" in his discussion of American education: American kids' heads are being filled with pure poison, and "we are arguably at the point of no return" as a consequence. (He wrote this in 1982, before the rise of "PC," multiculturacism and "speech codes.")
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why are you limiting your choices to left and right members of the left and only the left?

    Why are you limiting your choices to those which the left decided to give you two and that's it?

    Why are you limiting your choices at all by listening only to the other side?

    Why are you siding with the left?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So...if Trump gets the nomination, what then? Vote for Clinton, or abstain. Or Bernie Sanders? It's Sophie's choice.
    Rand Paul has as much chance to get the nomination as my beagle. So, do we settle for someone who espouses at least partially, rationality. Who do you recommend? Cruz? Rubio?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I fear you're right. I think we'd all love to see a smart, principled, businessman take over the political reins. Trump is not that guy. Plus, once he got his hands on those reins, he will conveniently forget about we the people and become me the Trump. not once have I heard him relate seriously to the Constitution.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True but if herded properly they will vote for the right wing of the left and so? Nothing gained there. However if offered a real alternative.....wow what an amazingly fresh and different idea. That won't happen voting for a RINO....except in a deal with Carly Fiorini and that means it has to start with primaries.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who would that one be? I wasn't aware we had any insiders. Only the left has insiders. No Confidence vote is don't play their game and jack up the percentage of those who chose not to vote for left wing socialists be they the right wing or the left wing of the left. But I'm interested in knowing what insiders we have ....Could have sworn the answer was zero.

    Unless you are talking about using Carly as camels nose to get someone like Webb or Jindal in as VP nominee and think about eight years ....of course he is more qualified than the rest to try and solve the disaster of the economy - so is Webb. now if they could just get Allison as Sec Treas and Chief Financial adviser....

    Of course only one of them is an outsider, one is a Republican though that wouldn't be hard to change and the third is in reality a Democrat. Ergo the Camel's Nose.

    But I'm not aware of any others that come close to fitting the description...
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    but one of our insiders doesn't have a snowball's chance
    to win, and a "no confidence" vote isn't available here
    like it is in other countries. . ergo, Hillary. -- j
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