The Gene Revolution: GMO's are critical to our survival

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 7 months ago to Science
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An excellent paper that traces the amazing history of GMO's, which really goes all the way back to the beginning of the agricultural revolution.

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's true and that was the only thing significant other than the original programmers screwed up a perfectly good system of telling time by starting at 0001 AM and counting allllllllll the way to 1159AM then finishing it with 12PM instead of 12AM. The real sad part was it only need the 24 hour system 0000.click to 2400. AM and PM after all are not designated spots on the highway of time they are just designators of before and after the meridian or zenith of the sun. I think their teachers forgot to include that in what used to be standard common ordinary world wide language.The one to 12 system came about with mechanical clocks only having enough room on the face for 12 numbers until some said duuuuhhhh why not put 13 under the one and so forth ....

    That you can work with in navigation but people who think the millennium meant 999 years are really really really .....dumbed down.

    Their first excuse is but it starts with zero. That's right dummies and the first year ends with one the thousandth ends with a thousand and Zero has no value it's just another signpost like
    AM and PM.

    The LMAO part is the hucksters and propagandists could have been celebrating 2000 all year long as the last year finishing with a reeeeeeelllleeeee big shoe (who used to say that?) and mondo fireworks and cannons and Boston Pops live.

    I'll forgive the part to make it work you would have to put the meantime through this little town in Israel and readjust for Gregorian and Julian....Otherwise the mystical formulas and incantations can't work. LMFAOx2
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh boy, are you right. We had a couple of big bonus years. These helped get us through the bust that happened when the dotcom bubble burst.

    "Fear will keep the local systems in line."

    Jan
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well,imo, Y2K 'the programming fix' kept the economy going until, er, y2k. Billions were spent to make sure that there would not be any sigificant problems with software because so many programmers had coded year as 2 digits.
    Those consulting revenues helped keep other economic problems hidden until the tech boom busted starting in April 2000. It wasn't overblown at all, but hard work made it appear that way.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whoosh! It was gone.

    "Y2K" is a term in IT now, used to tag something that is overblown, ie "Will the new ICD10 changeover be just another Y2K?"

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One that disappeared along with an entire year was the millennial prediction of doom, gloom and what every Sure enough the thousandth year of 1000 just disappeared.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The most grounded argument re CERN that I heard was, in essence, "I am tired of hearing doomsday predictions by people whose first statement is 'well, I can't do the math, but...'. If you can't do the math, keep your mouth shut."

    As you say, the same thing applies to genetics (but...less math). Hmmm. History too, come to think of it. We cannot all know everything (just too much to know) but we can each try to grasp some basic principles of various disciplines. And you know what? Lots of doomsday predictions disappear when one does that.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ultimately the argument against GMOs and similar innovations boils down to "We don't fully understand nature and never will; God knows more than we; so how dare we try to improve on nature?" In other words, it's both mysticism and a denial of the power of reason.

    Indeed, most of the environmental movement is based on that same shallow argument.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No cranks here. This is the most reasonable, historical and accurate resource available in regards to genetic modifications.
    It's taken me a long time to vet this out.
    It's worth reading for anyone willing to adapt to new knowledge...which is a Conscious Human Trait...or in our community shall I say: An Objective conscious human trait?
    This book is definitely eye opening.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Extraordinary require extraordinary evidence. Unless you can present something extraordinary, I am not going to waste my time. I don't need to read every cranks book on global warming to know it is nonsense.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The facts are in the recommended reading: Particularly pages 90/91 puts it together quite well.
    Written by someone who lived it.

    With a little common sense no emotion is needed.
    It's quantumly objective.
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    Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 7 months ago
    Ah but there is a big difference doing it naturally versus today's gmo's.
    They just arrogantly figured they could do whatever and it would be safe...wrong! They have endangered life on earth.

    Read: Altered Genes, Twisted Truth
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago
    Good article. One of the things that is often overlooked is that if a crop is innately resistant to a pest or weed, then you do not have to spray the crop, thus minimizing the insecticides that get into the soil and water. So GMO = pro-environmental from that perspective as well.

    I would like to hold Greenpeace accountable for the millions of deaths it has caused.

    There is a glo-plant available now too. You do not need to use UV to see it - it fluoresces.

    Jan, wants a night-light plant
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I attribute an evil nature to the democrats. They are into power and control over other people and want to eat us up. Just like the velociraptors
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, they were poisoned by a virus that a Klingon agent had added to the quadrotriticale to keep it from being used on Sherman's World. The tribbles were affected by the virus and died, thus providing a clue to the fact that it had been infected.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would have thought rather more than that. So I looked. 232 million in the XX Century is one fairly hard figure but did not include genocides and killings not as part of wars but of repression or bad science etc.

    Here's a top Ten list

    10. Yakubu Gowon (1.1 million deaths) Nigeria
    9. Mengistu Haile Mariam (400,000 – 1.5 million deaths) Ethiopia
    8. Kim Il Sung (1.6 million deaths)
    7. Pol Pot (1.7 million deaths)
    6. Ismail Enver Pasha (2.5 million deaths)
    5. Hideki Tojo (5 million deaths)
    4. Leopold II of Belgium (2-15 million deaths)
    3. Adolf Hitler (17 million deaths)
    2. Jozef Stalin (23 million deaths) He did about that same number in between wars.
    1. Mao Zedong (49-78 million deaths)

    and that's not counting LBJ and Rachel Carson.
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