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The gauntlet is thrown

Posted by $ johnrobert2 6 years ago to Politics
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This morning on Glenn Beck Radio, Glenn threw the gauntlet directly in Obama's face. He charged the president (notice the little 'p'?) was complicit in the expansion of ISIS from the beginning of his presidency. This from newly declassified DoD documents. If this is provable, there may be a bill of impeachment in the offing. His conduct has been reckless and detrimental to the safety and security of the United States and may be considered treasonous.


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  • Posted by edweaver 6 years ago
    I listened to this as well. Obama is either really stupid or complicit. Either way he should not be in his position. But I doubt if there is the courage to impeach.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years ago
      The American people may demand it, in spite of the desire of the Democrats in Congress to sidetrack this. After all, they can be impeached (recalled?) at a moment's notice by their constituents. I know it comes at a very awkward time but I think it puts the military on notice not to accept any imperial orders to supplant civilian authority, which he may try to use to stonewall such a move.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 6 years ago
        Question? Who has the authority to file impeachment charges?

        Answer:

        Article I § 2 of the United States Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach (make formal charges against) and Article I § 3 gives the Senate the sole power to try impeachments. Article II § 4 of the Constitution provides as follows:

        Impeachment is the same as A Grand Jury Indictment it is not a trial. As stated above the only legal entity to conduct such a hearing is the House of Representatives.

        The Actual Trial itself is conducted solely by the House of The Senate. They are the only entity that may and can determine a guilty or not guilty verdict.

        I would imagine the Congressionals themselves are so deeply involved they could do either action without implicating themselves.
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  • Posted by $ straightlinelogic 6 years ago
    Where has Mr. Beck been? Any number of websites, including SLL, and non-mainstream media outlets have been saying this, and providing corroboration and details, for years. Obama picked up the ball from Bush, whose invasion of Iraq was responsible for the formation of al Qaeda in Iraq, which eventually morphed into ISIS. The US has supported ISIS because our goal in Syria has always been to take down Assad. A recent suit by Judicial Watch unearthed a Defense Intelligence Agency document in 2011 that explicitly contemplated the formation of a Salafist (Sunni extremist) group in eastern Syria and western Iraq to take out Assad, with the assistance of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the Gulf States.

    There is no such thing as "moderate Syrian rebels," that has always been an invention of those promoting US involvement in Syria. There are two sides: Assad versus ISIS and allied groups, many of which are, like ISIS, al Qaeda offshoots. The so-called moderates in that famous picture with John McCain turned out to be al Qaeda members. Because our goal, in conjuction with the Sunni Arab states and Turkey, has always been to take out Assad, we are allied with the ISIS coalition whether anyone in the US wants to admit or not. Again, this is not news.

    As an aside, it also supplies the context for the Benghazi tragedy. The US, in an operation approved by Clinton and Obama, of which leading Republicans in Congress were aware, was shipping arms from Libya after Gaddafi was deposed and murdered to Syria. That operation was covert and in contravention of US law. That is why we never seem to get to the bottom of the Benghazi story, because it would expose our true aims in Syria and that unlawful operation.

    Yippy Skippy that someone clued Glen Beck in. By all means impeach Obama and send him to jail, but don't stop there. Go after Clinton and all the neoconservatives and liberal "humanitarian" interventionists that have lied and used every subterfuge in the book to get us so stuck on the Middle East tar baby that we'll never get unstuck. War crimes have been a bipartisan exercise.

    By the way, if anyone wishes to pursue this issue further, I will supply an abundance of links, both to SLL, and other sites.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 6 years ago
      Actually, Beck said on 9/12/12 (the day after Benghazi) that he had some evidence that Benghazi was a gun running scheme with Syria gone bad. He backed it up with more evidence later that month after the Susan Rice cover-up about the "video".
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      • Posted by $ straightlinelogic 6 years ago
        I don't follow Beck, so I don't know what he has or hasn't said about Libya and Syra. I was responding to the post that makes it sound like a revelation that the US and Obama have been supporting ISIS. That story has been known and publicized for some time, and if Beck was on board prior to this, good. The more the real story gets out the better. It may still not be to late to stop the US from doing something really stupid, although like dhhalling above, I have my doubts.
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        • Posted by $ jbrenner 6 years ago
          I used to listen to Beck much more often than I do now. Beck usually has information and insight that are uncommon to find elsewhere. Although I disagree with some, his insight does have value.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 6 years ago
    51 Senators required to have the hearing; 60 required to convict.
    Let's at least have the hearing, and open Obama's college records while we're at it.
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  • Posted by samrigel 6 years ago
    Obama stupid? Not at all. Complicit absolutely. But this has been the plan from the beginning. In his books he lays out his plan, albeit not in so many words. But his goal has been to bring America down to the level of all other countries.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 6 years ago
    There is a rumored prophecy that BHO will walk away from the presidency before the end of his term. The Congress will not impeach him. Because they both parties will not be able to get enough votes between them for Articles of impeachment.
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  • Posted by weepingbeaver 6 years ago
    Hey! Here's an idea! Let's impeach every member of Congress! For failing to honor their oaths, for failing to vote and act on all the powerful provisions given to them in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Maybe we should give honors to obama (notice little 'o') for showing us the inevitable results on unbridled liberalism, socialism, and corruption?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years ago
    Have a link for you below and I haven't checked it out yet but I wanted to comment on your small 'p'. I have made it a practice for a while now of using a small first letter in some names, titles and faux concepts, etc. The reason is that I feel they do not deserve my respect nor the assumed respect of capitalization.
    Here is your link, just got it this afternoon.
    http://www.grassrootsaction.com/20145...
    Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years ago
    Nothing that we didn't know from the beginning. And even now, as a lame duck, he has put forth hundreds of new regulations, futher strait jacketing the country's ability to improve economically. Done, as usual, on a holiday weekend when people do not have their minds on Washington. Obama is a vampire sucking the life's blood from this country -- among other things, such as an intently insane foreign policy. Michigan had a little rhyme that I'll parody.
    Oh how I hate
    This ship of state. (Ohio State)
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  • Posted by $ jdg 6 years ago
    Unless we can get enough Democrats in the Senate to cross the line, impeachment would go nowhere. But once we have a Republican administration, Obama can and must be prosecuted and sent to prison. Let's start demanding that Republican primary candidates commit to do this.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 6 years ago
    Impeachment seems to be nothing more than a slap on the butt. Remember Clinton.

    What's going on, and HAS been going on from the beginning, is TREASON.

    But nobody has the guts to pursue that. Woe is America.

    There is virtually an entire GOVERNment consisting of treasonous individuals and actions. The only light is dim, but is destined to put D.C. out of business. Only then might we have a chance to do something right, voluntarily.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 6 years ago
      I'm curious -- what sequence of events do you see that would put DC out of business but leave us a chance to do something right? The only way I see DC going under is if some other country conquers us.
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  • Posted by HuckFinn 6 years ago
    Does anyone take Glenn Beck seriously? Seriously . . . he has the credibility and stature of Al Sharpton.
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    • Posted by bsmith51 6 years ago
      You seem to give credence to the media. Beck rang the bell, but not only did people not listen, they turned him out as a nut job; even Fox.
      I'll always thank Beck for informing me about Alinsky and the Cloward & Piven Strategy, and the various sub-plots, as well as much of the history of our nation's founding. He is vindicated by events.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 6 years ago
      Glenn Beck is smart and is a good friend of liberty, in spite of his religious beliefs. Who insults him insults me.
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      • Posted by KCLiberty 6 years ago
        Glenn Beck is a conman and an enemy of liberty. He says some good things, but when he has a chance to lead towards liberty, he chooses the corporatists and war maniacs like Romney, Santorum, McCain and his retarded soccer mom running mate. He is a wolf leading sheep & a CIA trained propagandist.
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