Objectivism and the Military

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 5 months ago to Philosophy
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"Philosophy: Who Needs It" was delivered at West Point. Ayn Rand. Rand was acutely aware of the tension between the physical military fight against communism and the evil of conscription. Even deeper, almost nothing in military customs and culture speaks to egoism: military service is the epitome of altruism.

Many here were conscripted. Rand's lawyer, Henry Mark Holzer, represented several young men during the Vietnam War who claimed that involuntary servitude in the military violated the Ninth Amendment. The claim failed. (But see here for the arguments: http://www.henrymarkholzer.com/draft_...

I read Atlas Shrugged at age 16 in 1966. I resisted the draft when I was called in 1970. After a full day in the processing center, we all agreed that if the USA were invaded, I would volunteer: 1-Y.

Last November, I enlisted in the Texas State Guard. Twenty states have State Defense Forces (http://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/20... but see also The State Guard Association of the United States here: http://www.sgaus.org/) We do not carry weapons, and we cannot be sent overseas.)

And you might well ask: What if we were invaded? Good question! When was the last time that happened? 1812. (See my post on the "Star Spangled Banner" on the Rebirth of Reason website here: http://rebirthofreason.com/Forum/Gene... But, OK, reality aside, what if - theoretically - the USA were invaded?

OK... what if...

That is easy enough, perhaps, but what about short of that? Is it in your self-interest to prevent invasion? Facing Nazi Germany, Swiss general Henri Guisan, ordered his troops to ignore any order to surrender as enemy propaganda and to find past the last bullet until they had only knives. Germany bitched -- but did not invade Switzerland...

On the personal level, once you enlist (assuming you have a choice) where and to what extent do your loyalties and affirmations apply?

We say that the refusal of the population to support a war is indication that the war in unjust, yet from the Mexican War to Iraq, we have not embraced those who refuse... Indeed, we vilify them.


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 5 months ago
    There are different forms of invasion, and I would submit that we are in the process of invasion by migration of the poor populations of the Latino countries to our south. The invasion takes the form of the uneducated and criminal elements, for economic reasons. The unskilled because they can work for a lower wage and still live better than in the country of their origin, and the criminal because there's so much more wealth easier taken here than in the autocratic states they left.

    Such invasions helped collapse the Roman empire, and appear to be destroying the European Union and the United States. The question is whether or not we will let misguided compassion guide us to societal suicide. As an Objectivist, I see no gain in ignoring the problem.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
    Guerrilla warfare is the solution to repelling a foreign invader. Small groups can do more than a big army. Look at how effective the tactics are in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and even Russia. If Russia tried to take over the US, it would be extremely difficult. They arent going to nuclear bomb us, as that would render their booty worthless in a chernobyl-like scenario. We as citizens need to be as independent as possible of our own government's hold on us.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 5 months ago
    If you aren't willing to defend your right to life, don't be surprised when someone absolves you of that right - permanently.

    Myself, my wife, and my oldest four all know how to properly care for and use a firearm.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
      and don't be surprised when the police are slow to respond citing need for back up and department policy....never enter a dwelling without back up an backup of the proper sex. Why risk your life for someone who cares nothing for their own?
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