Reframing the conversation

Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago to Philosophy
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Not only the leftists that can reframe the debate. It's a useful trick so I'll use it.

I shall no longer recognize PC nor left wing definitions. Use them you lose. Any second hand book store should provide you with a decent pre PC dictionary for starters. The difference is when confronted I will not follow the rest of the progressive formula, bob, duck, weave change the subject and disappear. In this manner, it's a lot more civil and far more useful than repeating over and over 'the government never shuts down' or ' people that believe that believe in balanced budgets with a surplus.'

Enjoy your Sunday I'm cleaning house in preparation for a fine day of fishing tomorrow! Give you a chance to find a second hand book store. 1980 is a suggestion. 1970 even better. Yet even slanguage has meaning IF you know or care about the code. I don't. V with two fingers palm forward is stil Victory and palm reversed is the British equivalent of M2F.

Now for the thin skinned picking on REMFs is not the most enjoyable task. REMFs have value. Someone has to serve the meals, keep the plumbing working and staff the areas between the Pentagon and rear support areas. The option is your SOL. Some people are REMF's no matter the location and some are combatants no matter what the duty descripton. Take heart no longer will REMF'[s be left crying like a rat eating onions. I have it on good authority rats enjoy onions. Thank you Jan.

Some definitions have to change.....there's my contribution. Some do not. I do not concede clips when you mean magazines. the nice part is I'm sure to get caught out again. Hmmmm...Lick on me. It's called learning. (there is not their must remember that.) Since I'm taking a philosophical view ....it's in that section. Dangerously...there's a soft ball word. word. Related to trump or king I believe. Bring it on.

hi ho hi ho...etc.


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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 8 years, 5 months ago
    Two of the most illustrious members of the tribe were Major Disaster and General Fletcher Upton, both of whom dwelt in the inner chambers of the aforementioned puzzle palace. We often were the recipients of their strategic thinking. I'm often reminded of that wonderful epigram which came out of our adventure in SEA: "We, the unwilling, led by the incompetent, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much for so long with so little, we are expected to do everything with nothing."
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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 5 months ago
    I am from a longtime military family. REMF is not the worst label. Worst is when the people commanding the folks in combat are theorists or are using outdated strategy and tactics. (During my childhood, "Bomber Pilot" was a term of mild derision; if you behaved in a particularly obtuse fashion you were called, "Tank Commander!".)

    As MichaelA says, there is actually a function for support personnel. (I was in a medical squadron.) It is the Generals who are 'fighting the last war' who (and who cannot learn) who cause spurious casualties in the combat forces. (The very term "front lines" - which I originally used in that sentence - is an example of 'the last war' type of thinking. From what I have read, relying on the concept of defined combat zones is a major handicap in modern combat.)

    Jan
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    • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago
      doesn't the recent leftist politicization of the upper ranks
      "outshine" even "last war" and "Tank Commander" ... ???
      IMHO, the pols have castrated the military over the past few years. -- j
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      • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 5 months ago
        Isn't this just another example of the 'peacetime commander' johnpe? Famously, the people filling the upper ranks between wars have outdated and inappropriate philosophies and martial skills. Then the next war breaks out and they die like flies, leaving room for the commanders who came up via the ranks to take over. Then, with peace returned, the wartime commanders find themselves 'not PC' and retire.

        Repeat.

        Jan, bummed that we do not learn - and lives are needlessly spent because of it
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