Short take on the October 28 Republican debate

Posted by handyman 4 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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Not that I agree with many of the positions the candidates take, but the qotcha questions from the MSM mavens were disappointing, especially given that their day jobs is reporting on business and the economy.


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  • Posted by JCLanier 4 years, 5 months ago
    Handyman: You got that right. Fox News just followed up on your comment agreeing that the losers were the liberal moderators. As they said, "Give us a Brit Hume, a Limbaugh and an O'Reilly for moderators for the GOP Debates". Yes!
    Biased lefty Demo media... what a F**ing joke!
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    • Posted by robgambrill 4 years, 5 months ago
      Yeah, It seems to be a common opinion in the online post-debate analysis that CNBC really blew it on several levels. What I have to wonder is how this can not hurt their ratings (and their ability to make money in the future). You would think they would have at least tried to look impartial.
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  • Posted by $ mshupe 4 years, 5 months ago
    I watched it and glad I did, if for no other reason than to see how much talent there is, their ability to think on the feet, to see how prepared they are, and try to discern between prepared sound bites and glib responses. What Cruz did to the moderators really showed how good he is at debate. Carly and Rubio were awesome. Heck, almost all of them showed class and poise and embarrassed the hell out of CNBC.
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  • Posted by JCLanier 4 years, 5 months ago
    I agree that CNBC hurt themselves tonight. Fox and many of their commentators are appalled at the CNBC demeanor calling it a "train wreck".
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 5 months ago
      What's sad is that the gotcha demeanor got started by the Fox team themselves in the first debate. I sincerely think they were trying to get that out of the way and give the candidates practice dealing with a really hostile media team on later debates, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Rubio had it right when he called out the MSM as the biggest Democrat PAC. The deliberate intent has been to avoid giving the GOP candidates a forum to present their positions, and try to make them look as ridiculous as possible with as many "when did you stop beating your wife" questions as they can cram in.
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  • Posted by robgambrill 4 years, 5 months ago
    Listening to the debate, I also had the impression that the moderators lost. They sounded hostile and uninformed. From their reaction, I think the audience felt the same way.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 4 years, 5 months ago
    Even much more energetic applause (for the candidates) than Hilarity got, during the Dumbo debate. I was impressed!
    Now, if the voters can just get out and really show their support, next year.
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  • Posted by $ Flootus5 4 years, 5 months ago
    I just hope that Jeb Bush blew it enough and Rubio took him out enough to get the jebberwonky out of the race.

    I won't trust this appearance, though, until I see it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 5 months ago
    Hi, Handyman:
    You used the term "Maven" for the questioners. I believe it's a Yiddish word that has been adopted into Americanese meaning a Smart Guy. A more appropriate word might be Schlemiel, which indicates a no-nothing loser. Those CNBC Schlemiels didn't have a debate, but a Democrat talking points festival. There are several good phrases in several languages that quite adequately describe them. I'm not dumping on you, Handyman, since "Maven" is usually used as an ironic or sarcastic word.
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    • Posted by 4 years, 5 months ago
      Herb: Yes, I usually use the word "maven" in a sarcastic way. Speaking of Schlemiel - I happened to catch Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) tonight as she commented on the applause that some of the candidates got when they chastised the moderators. Would you believe her comment was that it showed how easily an audience can be led! The arrogance of the left is phenomenal. How can these people have an credibility?
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      • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 5 months ago
        Because they are delusional. Emotion beats logic. Most of them are what Lenin described as "useful idiots." It's interesting that the very thing they describe as what the Republicans or Conservatives are is a perfect description of what they are.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 4 years, 5 months ago
    Actually, I would love to see 4 moderators. O'Reilly and Limbaugh. And two liberals. This "might" force the libs to actually ask good questions.
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    • Posted by 4 years, 5 months ago
      That would be interesting to see. Fat chance any of us would ever live to see it - probably too much out-of-the-box for MSM to engage. I'd really like to see one of the moderator panels include someone from Atlas Society, ARI or even CATO or AEI.
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  • Posted by Stormi 4 years, 5 months ago
    I didn't watch, spent the time reading about mid-century architecture. I am so sure that the worst Republican candidate will get nominated,and it will be ALMOST as bad as having Hillary. I just cannot completely trust Trump's motives or goals, Carly is too similar to Hillary, and the Republican leadership will never give Carson or Rubio the the bid. It would take an uprising of the people to change things now. Enjoy what time we still have to live lives of reason.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 5 months ago
    Scott, is there any reason that the Gulch should not invite all the candidates to debate in the Gulch?
    If we think the networks are so bad (and they really are bad), can we do a better job?
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    • Posted by JCLanier 4 years, 5 months ago
      Freedom: Now that's an idea!
      If there is a chance why not try.
      Makes me curious to see what candidate would refuse to accept the invite.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 4 years, 5 months ago
        Exactly. Its early in the campaign, and the demands on candidates time is not as critical.

        If you are afraid to answer real questions, or if you have no answers, then you should not be a candidate.

        If you refuse an invitation to a real venue to honestly examine your positions/proposals on real issues, not divisive distractions, then your motives are suspect.

        Perhaps one person can get a number of groups together to back such a debate, e.g., the Atlas Society, FEE, et al. The house speaker claims to be a Rand follower. Cruz claims to represent individual liberty. Rand Paul and his father clearly do. Would Ben Carson refuse a real discussion?
        The time is ripe based on all the criticism of the debate structure by the candidates.

        The networks have betrayed the trust of the public with their obvious biased agenda.
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  • Posted by RonC 4 years, 5 months ago
    I missed the part of the debate dedicated to the economy. I though we might actually get to hear from the candidates their positions and what sets them apart from the others and the status quo. Instead, there was a show all about progressive pundits.
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  • Posted by Abaco 4 years, 5 months ago
    I missed the debate, on purpose. I simply don't care anymore and won't be voting unless Rand Paul gets the nomination. Soon, I'll be going on two decades of not voting.... I did, however, see the clip of Cruz losing his $*&% at the stupid questions from the moderators. He was right. And...yet another reason why I don't watch. It's really a waste of time to hear these candidates, after sacrificing like they have to get this far, be asked these stupid questions. It's worse than an Oprah interview.

    America is finished. Maybe they should have Kaitlin Jenner moderate the next debate. Ratings would go up.
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    • Posted by JCLanier 4 years, 5 months ago
      Abaco: I refuse to quit.
      Consider doing a "U-Turn" and vote one more time -this time. If we don't get someone for radical change -well then, the hell with it!
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