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What would you consider the number one priority in the making of Atlas Shrugged Part III?

Posted by sdesapio 12 years ago to Entertainment
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We want to hear from you. What would you consider the number one priority in the making of Atlas Shrugged Part III?

A. Casting
B. Getting the message of Atlas Shrugged right
C. Cinematography
D. Special Effects
E. Hiring the right Director
F. Other

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  • Posted by scaudill 12 years ago
    As an actor and occasional producer myself, to get any film right takes A, B, C, D, E... and a healthy dose of "F." F includes score, editing, adaptation and 1000 other things that have to come together to make any film work. I enjoyed the first two films very much and would love to see the last chapter go above and beyond.
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  • Posted by Russ 12 years ago
    F. Crafting a script that engages regular viewers and that presents the characters as intriguing, believable characters while still showing (more so than telling) the ideas that are essential to why I care about Atlas Shrugged.
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  • Posted by blkbass 12 years ago
    My choice is B...if you are watching and understanding today's news, we are living the nightmare NOW!!!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 12 years ago
    B. 100% B. Everything else accentuates the message. You can have A, C, and D and still end up with "Water World".
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  • Posted by nealgb 12 years ago
    Casting....PLEASE keep the same actors for Dagny Taggart and Henry Reardon as in Atlas Shrugged 2
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    Posted by C_S 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "Parts 1 and 2 stuck to the novel, yet they were failures with audiences and critics. How do you explain it?"

    Because no screenplay can really actually stick to a novel. Even a novel as thin as, say, Jerzy Kosinski's "Being There" gets compressed. It takes about eight hours straight to read "The Great Gatsby." Any movie shorter than eight hours has left something out.

    No screenplay can truly stick to a novel. This is news to some people, especially when the particular novel is their substitute for the Holy Writ.

    Rand is justifiably known for hitting her reader over the head with a crowbar for page after page after page, especially when it comes to her ideology. That's why she was so ill-suited as a novelist rather than an essayist. And that's why the most infamous chapter in the book has one guy not letting anyone else interrupt him for three hours - beyond parody as bad novel-writing.

    Now, if the people posting here were really serious about "first and foremost, you've got to get the ideology across," they'd be clamoring for the Galt speech in its entirety. Anything else would be a regrettable compromise, right? But there's no chance that's going to happend. Yet the Galt does represent a serious quandary for the producers. How much should they include? Which parts should they cut? I don't think for example that anybody would particularly miss her cod-Aristotle noodling about existence (except for those who know enough Aristotle to find it as sophomoric as I do). But the line about "His time is over" -- that's gotta stay, if only because that's as far as most rational people make it into the blablablah.

    So the reaction is going to go into two camps. The ones who get so starry-eyed over hearing an actor say "Mr. Thomspon will not be addressing you tonight" that they won't care which parts of the speech are included or excluded, and the ones who are going to insist that the lines supporting Rand Dogmatic Point 38.4 subparagraph 129 were inexcusably left out AND THE ENTIRE SPEECH WEAKENED IRREMEDIABLY AS A RESULT, HOW COULD YOU! HOW COULD YOU!

    So it's a problem. A big, big, big problem within the ranks of Randites. Which is to say, in the real world, it's no problem at all.
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    Posted by darren 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    >>>F. The best thing you could do is get John Aglialoro's ego in line with reality. He makes crappy movies. Does he honestly not know that?

    Bingo.
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  • Posted by darren 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    >>>I recommend David Mamet. Yes, he's expensive, but he might do it for less given that he shares many of our ideas.

    First, David Mamet only directs material that he has written.

    Secon, Mamet has expressed neither sympathy nor antipathy toward Rand and Objectivism. True, he has turned away from liberalism and embraced conservativism and classical liberalism a la Friedrich Hayek, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, and Milton Friedman; but that doesn't suggest he shares your ideas, especially since Rand (and various Objectivist spokespersons) have expressed disagreement and sometimes great hostility toward Hayek and Friedman.
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  • Posted by darren 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    >>>Stick to the novel and it will be a total success.

    Parts 1 and 2 stuck to the novel, yet they were failures with audiences and critics. How do you explain it?

    What about this:

    Just because a screenplay sticks to a novel doesn't make it a good screenplay. This is true for any novel-to-film adaptation, not just Atlas.

    A screenplay is the blueprint of a movie. If the blueprint is flawed, the building you construct using it as a guide will be flawed. Just ask Howard Roark.
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  • Posted by coaldigger 12 years ago
    B. The entire message is in the This is John Galt speech and it will be impossible to do the entire speech and have it be effective. It is a great challenge to get the gist and principal impact while encouraging the audience to go home and read it in its entirety.
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  • Posted by jrichter 12 years ago
    Signing the lead actress that portrayed Dabny in the first movie!
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 12 years ago
    F. Other (All of the above) If you are going to make money on the movie, it has to be an exceptional product all around
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  • Posted by terrycan 12 years ago
    B! Getting the message of Atlas Shrugged right is priority 1. A,B,C,D and E are all very important. I believe using Part III in the title is marketing suicide. People may see Part III and say "I haven't seen parts I and II so why bother with part III." Consider "Atlas Shrugged A is A." One should be able to see "A is A" and get it even if they haven't seen Parts I and II. Remember the old movies with spinning newspapers? Perhaps spinning tablets with headline to bring the movie goer up to speed.
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  • Posted by John_Emerson 12 years ago
    The number 1 priority is getting the message ACROSS. You could get the message right by filming Mr. Aglialoro, standing at a lectern, reading John Galt's speech... but that wouldn't be very cinematic. It wouldn't get the message across to anyone who wasn't already a "true believer." With the current production crew, I have no doubt you'll get the message right. Getting it across, reaching a larger audience, should be the number 1 priority.
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  • Posted by halfwindy 12 years ago
    A, B. The rest are also important, if only for adding credibility to the production in the eyes of the public.
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  • Posted by iroseland 12 years ago
    In thinking about this some more.. While getting the message right is really important. It seems like that is fairly low hanging fruit considering the source material. So, that leaves something else.. It seems like the writing in I and II was not too bad. But, the acting was kind of wooden in both of them. On a set there is only one guy who can get a good performance out of the actors. So, I would say that the thing that is probably most important in III would be really, really good directing.
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  • Posted by overmanwarrior 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    John Galt.........................

    I would say "get John Galt right." Not backing off the message in any way to appease anybody. As far as the other issues, I would suggest using a few key scenes with Ragnar Danneskjöld to set the value of Galt's Gulch and the underlining message behind John Galt's speech. The film should be about why Robin Hood is a villian, and not a hero. When I think of John Galt, I think of Clint Eastwood films from the late 60s and early 70s. I think of High Plains Drifter when I think of John Galt. Nobody has met John Galt yet in these movies, and he will provide context to the previous two films.
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  • Posted by C_S 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the real issue is for the production team to come to grips with exactly why the first two failed so badly. You can jump up and down and scream "liberal critics" all you want, but if the films had really delivered the goods, they would have thrived, not died.

    About half a decade ago a self-financed independent film company named "Premise" came along, with a simple formula: ideology, ideology, ideology. They released one film - a boring hatchet job on Darwin and an advertisement for "intelligent design" with Ben Stein whoring himself out as narrator - which tanked despite a publicity budget several times larger than the production budget. "Premise" has now gone under.

    Aglialoro has tapped into the Rand-evangelist-belt and has therefore been able to schnorr enough Other People's Money keep the trilogy going, despite two cataclysmic financial losses. But focus on ideology, ideology, ideology, and you'll end up with "Strike Three." And Ayn Rand's novel will become shorthand for "World's stupidest trilogy."
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  • Posted by C_S 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I think they're about as likely to get David Mamet as they are to get Alfred Hitchcock.
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