Another school, another tragedy... but what if...
another school, another tragedy, another opportunity for B.O. to grandstand.
But let's talk reality here. I know that government schools are designed to bang all pegs into dodecahedron-shaped holes, but there are some older middle school and high school students and some adults who can still think.
So why don't they? Why won't they?
Every single classroom is FULL of weapons - awfully close up, but weapons. Do we really think that a shooter would proceed down a hall if people popped out of doors behind and ahead of him and started throwing chairs and skidding desks? You could build a dandy obstacle. After you consider tables and chairs, you've got books [just think of getting hit in the shoulder with a copy of the OED - even the condensed version!], supplies and backpacks. Not to mention the specialized missiles of the orchestra studio, the chemistry lab, and the gym! and ....the shop.
Yes, people will be hurt and damage will be done. But there are going to be some people hurt anyway! So why not use their injuries - use their deaths - against the bad guy, instead of huddling under a sink somewhere?
Why not teach them that they can make a change in what happens? I know, I know, teachers won't do it because they'll get in trouble. Fine. Stand up, look yourself in the eye, and DO. Deal with the trouble later. Thank whatever you believe in that you're alive to deal with being in trouble.
The one thing the students have been taught is that they have to obey their teachers. So TEACH. Help them learn that they don't have to be helpless, that they can fight back against mindless violence. What better lesson to teach them? If they survive, they'll never forget this lesson.
I'm sick and damn tired of these attacks, watching the intended victims scatter and run, or try to hide. It brings to mind the knights running down the serfs for their own amusement. They were invincible - until someone realized that a bodkin-pointedarrow would penetrate maille, and the playing field leveled .
Of course, a gun throws a more deadly missile than a person does. But quantity has a quality all its own, and enough missiles thrown by enough people will overcome one nutcase with a gun - any gun.
Teachers - and students - stop letting the moronic administrators and cowed teachers turn people into helpless victims and get them killed. Teach that there is value and virtue in protecting your own life, Teach that there's a reason that humans are at the top of the food chain.
TEACH REALITY, and life, and live.
...yes, I am a former teacher, and you can believe that I had this conversation with myself every single day.
Never Surrender,
WW
But let's talk reality here. I know that government schools are designed to bang all pegs into dodecahedron-shaped holes, but there are some older middle school and high school students and some adults who can still think.
So why don't they? Why won't they?
Every single classroom is FULL of weapons - awfully close up, but weapons. Do we really think that a shooter would proceed down a hall if people popped out of doors behind and ahead of him and started throwing chairs and skidding desks? You could build a dandy obstacle. After you consider tables and chairs, you've got books [just think of getting hit in the shoulder with a copy of the OED - even the condensed version!], supplies and backpacks. Not to mention the specialized missiles of the orchestra studio, the chemistry lab, and the gym! and ....the shop.
Yes, people will be hurt and damage will be done. But there are going to be some people hurt anyway! So why not use their injuries - use their deaths - against the bad guy, instead of huddling under a sink somewhere?
Why not teach them that they can make a change in what happens? I know, I know, teachers won't do it because they'll get in trouble. Fine. Stand up, look yourself in the eye, and DO. Deal with the trouble later. Thank whatever you believe in that you're alive to deal with being in trouble.
The one thing the students have been taught is that they have to obey their teachers. So TEACH. Help them learn that they don't have to be helpless, that they can fight back against mindless violence. What better lesson to teach them? If they survive, they'll never forget this lesson.
I'm sick and damn tired of these attacks, watching the intended victims scatter and run, or try to hide. It brings to mind the knights running down the serfs for their own amusement. They were invincible - until someone realized that a bodkin-pointedarrow would penetrate maille, and the playing field leveled .
Of course, a gun throws a more deadly missile than a person does. But quantity has a quality all its own, and enough missiles thrown by enough people will overcome one nutcase with a gun - any gun.
Teachers - and students - stop letting the moronic administrators and cowed teachers turn people into helpless victims and get them killed. Teach that there is value and virtue in protecting your own life, Teach that there's a reason that humans are at the top of the food chain.
TEACH REALITY, and life, and live.
...yes, I am a former teacher, and you can believe that I had this conversation with myself every single day.
Never Surrender,
WW
A gloating loser coward with a gun expects to get off on spreading panic.
Being attacked by all the human rabbits should come very much as an unexpected shock.
Don't judge by the Authority's declarations; judge by the deeds. Try this experiment - introduce into a school any method of self defense that does not rely on the State Authority - see how fast you will be shut down and your thoughts erradicated.
if you didn't forget, I cry insult.
taught not to "hit back" against bullies; they were
supposed to go to someone in authority for justice;
and then, of course, justice was not done. So why
wouldn't schools be the logical place for victims
to be unable to defend themselves?
-Of course, "gun-free" zones are themselves
a sort of invitation to murderers to come in and
have their way. A better idea would be to have
a zone with a sign on it to potential attackers:
"This place is full of guns. Start an attack in
here, and you will be immediately gunned down."
The people in this place like guns, and many of them have guns with them as you are reading.
We like to play "guess who's got the gun". It begins when one of us feels threatened.
Come on in - play with us!
an alternative?
a circle and slash which covers the muzzle end of a 1911. The slash has been blown apart.
design credit to L. Neil Smith
About time we stopped raising a nation of cowardly wimps.
With my radical view of education, I disagree with you that self-defense should not be taught in schools. When I teach self defense to pistol students, I teach them to evaluate their location. Why not teach the same, with the addition of "what would you do if...?" in school?
Perhaps we should have a contest of who has the worst opinion of government schools.
I shrugged at the very beginning of my teaching career. I knew I wanted to teach in an alternative school, but to get the license, I had to do a 9-week sentence in a public school. That strengthened my negative view of them and I never worked in the public schools, even though I could have many actual money doing so. I was better at helping kids learn to think.
Thank you for sending it along. You never know just what input a child will react to.
Competition is going to be fierce in any event.
I would like to re-write a bit so as to avoid the objections that people have raised: make it clear that it wouldn't have to pass any silly boards, make it clear that it is a set of actions that would have to be taken because schools are gun-free zones.
I'm fussing around how to get it to you. If you were a Producer, I could PM you. send me your FB page, I'll friend you and then message you there with the text. If you can come up with a better idea, please let me know.
regards,
ww
We need to teach a new "norm" in these 'disarmed zones' that utilizes anything in active self-defense during these attacks.
+1 ww
Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you on being a member of the Flight 93 Support team.
Some of us are like Chris Mintz and would not go down without a fight, but that is not what we teach our youth. We teach them that only the government can protect and care for us. Well... those that tow the government line and drink their bilge do anyway... We can only hope that more people wake from their government induced stupor.
This approach is much like what Carson advocated and was immediately pummeled for by the MSM... most of which have armed security in their own buildings.
Regards,
O.A.
As I think you know, I prefer to live in a world where people do the right thing - a world of heroes. and I'd rather want that, and expect it, and work for it, and live for it - and not get it - than live disillusioned and hopeless, and still not get the world I want.
as we've heard before,
we have a world to win.
never surrender,
WW
You DO it when you need to, and some people will go with you.
As I said, I ran through this every day I taught, in every room. I knew what I would do, and because I taught in a school that let me know my students, I knew who would do what. Even if I was the only one, I'd rather be praised posthumously than praised for hiding under a sink.
Comrade, we are holding a reservation for you for a free holiday in Siberia.
There is a charter school movement called Expeditionary Schools. They do produce many independent, thinking survivors.
It doesn't have to be the way it is.
and I'd rather be with my comrades in Siberia [although if you had said Florida, I'd be terrified] than with my captors anywhere else.
The Dept of Education must die.
Freedom to the market for education and Life to independent thinking students!
You fail to understand the basic condition of the individual....1. Only people who are trained to fight and are "Tigers" will resist. 2. you talk about casualty's in a very casual manner...It is very easy for you to be casual about a few casualties that will happen anyway....but the individuals there in the moment are only thinking about themselves and will not risk themselves to help anyone else...for them if there is one casualty and it is them...it is too many! 99% of people will not sacrifice themselves to save even a hundred people.
The answer here of course is to get rid of "Gun free zones"
1. Some prey will discover their inner predator if the need arises. I've seen it happen.
2. That's not "casual", that's tragic fact. again, you know nothing about my state of mind. and you're wrong that everyone will think only of himself. Your puerile assertion that no one will sacrifice himself to save others has no support; the reverse is true. [see Flight 93] and anyone who would use an argument that the good of the many would or should outweigh the good of the few needs to go back to page one of "We the Living" and read carefully.
I truly pity you for your unfortunate view of your fellow humans; I think Miss Rand would too.
What are YOU going to do until then?