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  • Posted by $ TexOwl 8 years, 7 months ago
    Are we an organization that is interested in open discussion or aren't we?
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    • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago
      Yes I am...my disappointment came when about messages seemed to jump superficially and negatively on Cruz and no one said anything about his core beliefs. I read it many hours later and it was too late to jump in at that point. But by all means I would never censor you.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago
    I'd like to hear Jindal. He's one of a handful of Governors who stood up to the required national ID law. I'd also like to see an element of fairness in the candidates ability to present their views. If not here then where?
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    • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago
      Excellent point....Well made, Michael A. I agree. Jindal has an excellent conservative record. I suppose I left him out because he is so low in the polls. My mistake...it is still early and I get angry when we (the citizens) give in to the press and their choice of whom to follow. I also agree that we should have an element of fairness from our end. I was disappointed with some of the comments directed at Cruz during the debate. So what if he looked into the camera and seemed TOO well prepared (canned). I care about what he says more. He is always very well spoken and he believes in his positions and always consistent because it comes from his core beliefs....which closely align with mine. The reason I am interested in more people is because I am not as aware of the stated beliefs vs the actual doings of many of the candidates from different parts of the country.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago
        Well given the disappointing field so far maybe digging deep is the way to identify future leaders of whatever replaces the old Republican Party with a new Second Party. I was around Louisiana before and after Katrina when he was in Congress and Blanco which should be spelled with a k was governor. She completely hashed things up so he's got a perspective on picking up the pieces and rebuilding after another failed leftist was done. That and the REAL ID business makes him all the more interesting. I recall on the radio he didn't talk like a Republican he talked more like a Gulcher. Maybe, since we are apparently gaining noteriety or fame take your pick a good spring board would be useful - especially when the others get tiresome.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
    No interest in hearing from the religious zealots like Huckabee, Cruz, Rubio, and actually Carson (too bad). Something about Fiorina I just dont like after the last debate. I would rather listen to Trump, as he just says it like it is.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago
      You don't have to listen to the ones you do not like. However the open minded of us are interested. I say let them talk and hang themselves.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
        I want to hear Sanders in detail actually. I want to know how far he is willing to go to gauge where the mood of the country is
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        • Posted by 8 years, 7 months ago
          I wonder what Socialistic stuff he wants to bring to America.
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          • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
            Well, generally its going to be more government control and more money to the government to do all those things. But I wonder if he is at the directive 10-289 phase yet? In the end they want to direct what you do, and only give you what THEY determine is what you need to live at the standard they deem OK. Its all been done before like in Russia and Cuba- usually kept in place by military force.
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    • Posted by $ Suzanne43 8 years, 7 months ago
      Trump says it like it is, but so does Dr. Carson.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
        Yes he does. BUT, he is a religious zealot too, which nixes him in my book. Who knows what "his" god will want. There are so many "gods" out there, why should we listen to his "god" and not the "muslim god"
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        • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago
          Carson just said, in a post I placed here last night, that he would not support a theocracy because the US wasn't designed for it. Yeah, some zealot.

          I just wrote out something in that post which I deleted. It went along these lines: Carson is an intelligent man who has accomplished great things in his life on his own, without help from anyone. I am surprised that the post I made, because of the relevance of his statement and how he clarified it, isn't generating more conversation from this group. Were he an atheist or an objectivist, with the same credentials, the Gulch would be hopeful and hanging on his every word.

          Calling Carson a zealot is insulting to the mans obvious intelligence.
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          • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
            Yet during the latest debate he talked about "god" a lot, and certainly was willling to forbid abortions as something that god didnt want, and I bet he is against gay people also (but I really dont have hard facts on this). Hence, I call him a zealot. Puts "god" above everything else. Amazing that someone so intelligent and thoughtful could be so out of it when it comes to religion.
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            • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago
              So what? He can't talk about what he believes? He can't have a strong opinion as a DOCTOR about abortion? As a DOCTOR I'd think his perception is a bit more technically sound that "God said", wouldn't you?

              I apologize for saying it but you're statement is superficial and borders of bigotry.
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              • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
                I was impressed by him from the start. But, when he talked at the last debate it was HE who said he based his thoughts on "god". I am not making that up. You dont have to apologize for your thoughts at all. If Carson had said his conclusions were based on his medical knowledge and experience, I would have thought that was OK. Personally, I think abortion is kind of gross and mostly unnecessary anytime, but particularly a bad idea close to term.

                He is entitled also to his strong religious beliefs, but that means he doesnt get my vote for that office.
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                • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago
                  I'm certain his stance, while aligned with his beliefs, is backed up by his professional credentials.

                  "My entire professional life has been devoted to saving and enhancing lives. Thus, the thought of abortion for the sake of convenience does not appeal to me. Many of us turn a blind eye to the wanton slaughter of millions of helpless human babies who are much more sophisticated than some of the other creatures, when nothing is at stake other than the convenience of one or both parents. I am not saying that we should abandon our efforts to save baby seals and a host of other animals. Rather I am saying shouldn't we consider adding human fetuses and babies to the list?"
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                  • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
                    If I was pregnant (thats NOT going to happen tho), I would decide rather quickly if I couldnt keep the eventual baby for one reason or another, and if not, end the pregnancy very quickly, having nothing to do with belief in some etherial "god" figure's dictates. Carson should have just not invoked the "god" argument, but I suppose he may have just been pandering to his potential god-fearing potential constituency
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                    • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 7 months ago
                      Definitely possible. Have you ever seen his PBS discussions on the human mind and human potential? Impressive and encouraging.
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                      • Posted by term2 8 years, 7 months ago
                        I think all these candidates should do YouTube videos on various subjects where they talk about their views and thoughts- instead of doing these so called "debates" which are really non-debates but just opportunities for the media to have the candidates argue with their canned "talking points" for hours.
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