What is the philosophy of Moti Mizrahi, new FIT professor? Is Objectivism theory-laden?

Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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Zenphamy asked for an elevation of the discussion away from politics and more toward philosophy recently.

I know I said I was going to not be in the Gulch for a while. However, my university just hired Moti Mizrahi, and I am trying to understand him and his relationship or lack thereof to Objectivism. I talked with him very briefly today, after hearing that he was going to be our new philosophy of science professor. Just out of curiosity, I asked him who his favorite philosopher was. I was hoping he would say himself. He pointed to a philosophy professor also at my university that I did not yet know. Interestingly, he writes on his own web site, "There is no authority except yourself."

In one of Mizrahi's abstracts in the link above, Mizrahi writes,
"In this paper, I argue that the ultimate argument for Scientific Realism, also known as the No-
Miracles Argument (NMA), ultimately fails as an abductive defence of Epistemic Scientific
Realism (ESR), where (ESR) is the thesis that successful theories of mature sciences are
approximately true. The NMA is supposed to be an Inference to the Best Explanation (IBE)
that purports to explain the success of science. However, the explanation offered as the best
explanation for success, namely (ESR), fails to yield independently testable predictions ...".

http://philosopherscocoon.typepad.com...
describes how Mizrahi debunks the argument for the existence of a deity based on the observation that Jews have survived despite thousands of years of persecution.

I was hoping to discuss Objectivism with Dr. Mizrahi, but I admit I need some help here, preferably from some of our philosphers. I know that expert opinion does not form the basis for good argumentation. In fact, that is the subject of one of Mizrahi's papers.

On to the 2nd question:
"Theory-ladenness of observation holds that everything one observes is interpreted through a prior understanding of other theories and concepts." from
http://www.rit.edu/cla/philosophy/qui...

Numerous web sites show philosophers (not Mizrahi) attempting to discredit Objectivism using this argument. After having read those attempts to discredit Objectivism, I find their arguments rather weak at discrediting Objectivism. Have people observed Objectivists who filter observations through an Objectivst lens? Even if true, this doesn't discredit Objectivism necessarily, but it would be a weakness that I want to avoid in my own life.

I am going to throw this one out there, but not further comment. I will let you debate this amongst yourselves, and learn some about a subject that I readily admit that I am no expert in.


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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing to be sorry about. I learned something. Hopefully, I'll do a better job expressing myself. To me, the Gulch is like a delicious meal, but I've got to be careful not to consume too fast or I'll need a Rolaid. (Damn, I love metaphors and aphorisms.)
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK
    I've probably got all of the Rand stuff in their originally published form. Only because I was in the same position you are in but from '58 onward. A.R. was brilliant. what she wrote changed lives and illuminated the shadows cast by most modern philosophers. But she was just a human being, and as such was no goddess. Be careful not to deify her because her philosophy is so powerful. I'm sure that almost everyone in the Gulch has had their lives greatly influenced by her.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I do see spontaneous order in those communities. Such order is dictated by force. If you disagree with the leader, you get the "Queen of Hearts" treatment. Off with your head! Order is established quite quickly, but no production ever happens. How shocking! ;)
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  • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Spontaneous order in economics is an attempt to undermine individualism. It suggests a collective will randomly do the right thing. This is nonsense. It is only true when property rights (properly understood) exist - are protected

    Do you see any spontaneous order in nomadic tribes of Africa? Or the head hunters in the south pacific?
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your sister almost went - my daughter went -
    and graduated from there. I'm thinking 'small
    world' .... in a far out sense!
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  • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Spontaneous order is interesting but secondary in economics to more important points

    Ray Kurzweil has a extensive discussion of spontaneous order and concludes it is interesting, but it never gets beyond a certain threshold.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not to mention a course in the history of science and the history of technology. Infinitely better than most course on sociology or psychology.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My sister almost went to the Fashion Institute of Technology. We have shared that FIT joke for a long time.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You might want to take a look at "spontaneous order". It is a process that is suggested by Adam Smith's "unseen hand" and appears to be very real in both classical and quantum physics. Quarks combine to form subatomic particles, subatomic particles combine to form atoms, atoms combine to form chemical compounds and so on. There is a set of possible configurations, some of which are stable and many are not. The process of complex systems stemming from simple ones appears to be a part of the natural order of things and does not violate entropy.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was agreeing with Mizrahi that Jewish survival had nothing to do with Heavenly intervention. Looking at it now, I see that it could be taken the way you did. My passion often overrides my communication skills.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 9 months ago
    FIT - my first thought was Fashion Institute of
    Technology in New York City! Boy, what a
    stretch!
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Herb,
    I just yesterday saw 1961 and 1962 of AR's FFH talks and also just finished "THE AYN RAND COLUMN" book of her articles that appeared in the LA times in 1962. If I had any doubts what so ever about Objectivism and the incredible brilliance of Ayn Rand reading and listening to her from almost 60 years ago was enough to solidify my belief that Objectivism is singularly the only philosophy for one to live by. All of what I read and heard applies to what is going on today in our sorry world.
    jbrenner says this fellow didn't have much knowledge of Rand and he is considered a teacher of philosophy(?) so I discount the man in the field of philosophy completely, he offers nothing but gibberish.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. I want to look at raw data, and draw my own conclusions. Thus far, those conclusions are largely consistent with those of Objectivism. One thing that a scientist must always avoid is biasing the interpretation of results, and I am making sure that I check my own premises.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On this point, Mizrahi's argument is reasonable, and I think you misunderstood what db said. Mizrahi says that just because the Jews have survived does not mean that God exists. I know I have punished my own kids for deliberately disobeying what I have told them to do (or not do) when they were young enough not to know better. However, the exiles obviously were quite the punishment for those who believe that.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well said. This is why I am working on the elucidation of how materials self-assemble, so that I can understand the true mechanism - and then build off of that.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My self-interest in this discussion about Prof. Mizrahi is that I advertised that I was educating future Galts. If I am, then such future Galts ought to take a Philosophy of Science class, or at least a Bioethics class. I need to know this so that I can be truthful in my advertising.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 8 years, 9 months ago
    Hello, J,

    Thank you for posting this and starting the discussion. This set of comments is much more interesting to me than the usual venting of helpless outrage at politicians or numerous attempts to prove Ayn Rand wrong in denying the existence of gods.

    Again, thank you very much.

    P.S. Did you notice that there is not a single ad hominem in these comments?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Jewish Survival.
    What a potboiler piece of crap. What loving father would put his kids through that? Like the wise old rabbi said, "I know we are the Chosen People, but please dear God, next time, please choose someone else."
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 9 months ago
    Much of the confusion about objective reality stems from a failure to distinguish between what something is and what something does. Scientific experimentation and observation provide a metric for what something does, as such these are measures of behavior. We can speculate as to what the underlying mechanism might be to produce such behavior and we can perform additional tests to see if our model of that mechanism produces observable results. In this way underlying reality can be thought of as the contents of a box that exhibits certain observable properties. It is the box that we see and not its contents. We can develop a "theory of the enclosure" but if we cannot open the box the true mechanism will remain unknown.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Wiggys:
    I agree, BUT
    Humanity is so diverse and complex that no single set of truths will cover it all. If this guy has new insights, or truths, I'd be interested in them. Also, because he has a reputation, I want to know what he says even if he's full of crap, because that lets me know what's going on currently. From your posts, I know you are an intelligent person, so don't let yourself become concretized. Keep an open mind and mental tentacles reaching out in the world.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was not on the hiring committee and didn't know about his hiring until this week. Admittedly, he didn't have much knowledge of Rand. He will now. I'll give him a little leeway ... for now.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are two issues about the process of induction. Induction is the process of validating conclusions based on the law of identity and non-contradiction IMHO. Whether someone uses this process (or claims to) when they discover something (benzine ring) or not is less important than whether the answer can be validated with induction.

    We have this problem in patent law, where people try to argue that an invention is defined by how it was arrived at. That is irrelevant to the question of whether something is an invention. In this case the question is about whether a conclusion can be justified by induction. Whether the person used the right inductive method to originally come to the conclusion is much less important.
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