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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 13 years, 1 month ago
    So I ran lots of laundry, dried my clothing on the hottest setting, ran the vacuum, kept lights on in unoccupied rooms, and dried my hair using my blow dryer. Oh, and drove around in my SUV for short trips, although a short trip here, being rather rural, is 15-20 minutes each way. I don't however dump toxic waste around my home, and take care that I don't poison my groundwater, as I have a well. It's colder, as the earth is naturally going through a phase of cooling, which it has done alternately with warming, since it came into existence. My "carbon footprint" will do absolutely NOTHING to change that. And I believe in fracking. Evil, evil NMA... Lol
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  • Posted by $ EitherOr 13 years, 1 month ago
    when i was a Boulder hippie (lol) I saw a lot of people for whom it seemed the end justified the means. The scariest was the vote for a municipal utility over (regional) Xcel energy: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/us/col...

    Simply because Xcel wasn't "going green" fast enough. Anyone I tried to talk to about how much it would cost the taxpayers AND most likely how inefficient the initial system would be responded with "but Xcel is a big corporation".

    Today I'm celebrating earth day by doing what I always do: recycling (to be efficient with resources) and biking to work (because it's good for my body)
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    • Posted by khalling 13 years, 1 month ago
      I remember when that happened. we used to refer to the fact that Boulder only allowed for a few road into the town as them building their own "moat"-and I was glad they stayed over there by themselves.
      You need to see that BullShit episode about recycling, eitheror
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      • Posted by $ EitherOr 13 years, 1 month ago
        actually hadn't seen that episode yet - just finished watching. It's true. I am under no delusions about recycling. I worked at a recycling facility in college (did i mention i was a hippie?) to pay rent, but we sorted everything so that the finished product could be shipped directly to a manufacturer.
        I do not think recycling programs should be subsidized. I would totally pay for a privatized service to pick up my quality materials, like cans and white paper (worth most $$), and deliver them to a local manufacturer. The benefit I would receive for my payment is the knowledge that every bit of usefulness is being squeezed out of these products before they go into landfill.
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        • Posted by JossAmbrose 13 years, 1 month ago
          I worked at a recycling centre in Southern England for a short time about thirteen years ago. It was a grim job but it was all that was available at that time. Beggars can't be choosers...

          We had 6 to 8 huge bins, labelled Household or Garden Waste. The public would dutifully separate their waste & dispose of it in the correct bins. Throughout the day, lorries would collect the bins & dump the contents - regardless of what it was, into the same hole in the ground. It was a big fat lie to get the public to comply with 'environmental' muscle. This was of course government subsidised. I suspect things have moved on since then & more waste is actually recycled.

          Of course now there are even more categories & sub-categories of waste to contend with, so the public are forced into either giving up half of their living space to accommodate extra bins (in certain areas, fines are issued for putting bins out on the wrong day), or sifting through dirt on their hands & knees like tramps at the recycling centre, in order to appease the great & all knowing environmental god. The public of course have to pay for this non-service. It's called Council Tax.
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          • Posted by khalling 13 years, 1 month ago
            you have got to watch that Penn and Teller episode. It's on you tube. the crazy things they get people to earnestly recycle-
            I'm not against it-there's too dang much to concentrate on being against! but a baseline premise is that recycling most materials tend to use more energy and pollute more in the incineration process than all the other crap do-gooders are worried about. Even those closed incineration plants-the do-gooders are the first to say not in my back yard. just be intellectually honest or think just one tiny step beyond knee jerk emotion of "it's the RIGHT thing to do"
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        • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 1 month ago
          The aluminum can recycle places will pay YOU...for your cans, why would you pay them? And white paper is a farce... do watch the Penn and Tell B,S. recycle videos... You'll see.
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          • Posted by $ EitherOr 13 years, 1 month ago
            I did watch the video (see above comment). Actually, when I worked at the recycling center we spent a lot of time sorting out white paper-- because we got paid the most for it (of all paper types, by ton). Price decreases as you go down the chain, white--> colored-->mixed (magazines and paperboard)--> newspaper.
            I'd pay for a business to pick up my cans because I don't have the time or desire to take them somewhere, but I still want the aluminum to be reused.
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            • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 1 month ago
              If white paper was worth anything why aren't there white paper recycle locations like there are for aluminum cans?
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              • Posted by $ EitherOr 13 years, 1 month ago
                Right. good point. I think because you'll only get a net profit when you sell it by the TON, like we were. In most areas there just isn't that much white paper (most commonly letter- or A4-size paper like you'd use for printing documents, not just any white-colored paper). We received all the paper from a large college campus and supporting offices, so there was always plenty. Also, people would have to sort out ONLY the white paper, and that can be hard even for the most well-meaning person. It's like doing laundry- accidentally leaving a red sock in your whites load ruins the whole lot. I do know that the profit we made was minimal, anyway.
                I guess I had forgotten the white paper was only worth $$ in large (and pure) quantities, so never mind. I okay with just separating out my cans.
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        • Posted by khalling 13 years, 1 month ago
          I live outside the US. here's my recycling. two weeks went by and I noticed the garbage collectors hanging out at my place longer than what seemed reasonable. they were pawing through the trash for aluminum. economics I get. from that day on, we separated out the aluminum so that the the worker who was interested in "recycling" wouldn't have to work so hard. I am into community
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 13 years, 1 month ago
    I commented on this post, but didn't read the linked blog (?!) Sorry I missed it before. It was very interesting and it's a shame more people aren't telling the truth about this. We NEED to start talking about these things, and they reveal of bigger hidden agenda at work. Another piece of the puzzle on how to destroy America and the brains within.
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