Why do humans have to be owned?

Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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A recurring post here in the Gulch for the past several years asks whether the government owns you of if you own you.

Why do humans have to be owned at all?


My whole life I've been told that:
1) god own me.
2) my parents own me.
3) government owns me.
4) I own me.

But I've never read any proof or justification of why exactly is ownership of humans necessary?

In logic, the offering of a limited number of choices as if they were the only choices is a fallacy known as bifurcation. Is this what we are being offered?

Is ownership of humans necessary?


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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    People have sold themselves throughout all the history of mankind. Into slavery, into safety, into marriage, into religion for immortality, on and on.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago
    Self ownership is entirely necessary in order to morally prevent others from asserting that they or it or whatever owns you and that it's right for you to be responsible to demands placed on you because of that ownership, even to self sacrifice. If you fail to assert your ownership of self, others will.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
    On a gramatical note, English makes us use reflexive pronouns when the subject and object of a verb are the same, e.g. "I own myself." instead of "I own me." (except in cases of grammatical license as in the OP) Maybe this is because something verbs by their nature are different when the subject and object are the same. This is how I see "to own".
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago
    My understanding is we do own ourselves. Owning oneself, IMHO, is different from owning anything else. As Salty says, you can't permanently sell yourself, relinquishing all ownership. This is because permanently selling yourself would mean splitting the part of you with agency from some other part, which is impossible. That doesn't mean, to my understanding, that we do not own ourselves.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago
    If you do not take ownership of yourself, how do you contract? It is the most fundamental property right.
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 9 months ago
    I think that first of all, before analyzing the use of own logically, you should first define your term 'own'. If you mean it in the sense of possession, your premise is invalid. If I truly own something, I have the right and ability to, sell, give away or destroy the article. I can sell my car, I can give someone a guitar and I can burn my newspaper if I so choose. None of these apply in the case of a human being. In that sense, the concept of belonging does not refer to ownership, but rather to membership. I'm a member of the band; they, however, don't own me in any real sense.
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