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SHOCK: Arizona Paper Decries Border Fence as Too High for Mexicans to Safely Jump

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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Tucson, Arizona...it really makes you wonder.


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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have employed Latinos to do various jobs, and found this to be true. They are hard workers, and willing to work in the sun on a hot day doing manual labor...for reasonable prices. (I throw in cold beer at the end of the day, and have had some interesting conversations in Spanglish. I keep a pack of Corona on had for this purpose - not myself a beer drinker.)

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like these ideas. The only downside is that if we do not have the hard-working Mexican illegals to pick our strawberries, perhaps we can figure a clever plan for people who are on welfare to pick them. We have people who 'need' to work (at least, from my perspective) and we have work to be done...they should be introduced to each other.

    (Not that this would happen the way things are currently, but it is a thought.)

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I did it off the garage roof of my cousins' house, but it was a flat roof, so no peak.

    Jan
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On the other hand, letting mexican workers enter and work here has delayed automation. The mexican workers are more productive per $$ than the entitled american workers. thus keeping it cheaper to use more labor than to automate ever more complex work. The chinese have also delayed automation. Put in $15 per hour minimum wage and automation is going to accelerate big time as more and more jobs are taken by automation costing less than the $15/hour. This IS the time to start learning and working in automation design and servicing
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
    Is there no end to this? OK, stupid I can understand. Crazy even, I can understand. But this is stupid crazy on steroids. Hey idiots, the point of a fence is to keep them out. If they hurt themselves while breaking the law -- GOOD!
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They aren't entitled to access to begin with...we choose who comes in. We set the quota and the criteria. I DO NOT cry for them.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In Phoenix Arapio cracks down on illegal aliens in the workplace. He's been under constant threat from the fedgov for profiling and pro-illegal alien support groups for discrimination. Today Arapio has to tolerate a federal observer appointed by the court because they ruled he's racially profiling.

    Those trying to "do" are being silenced. Mexico is actively promoting the violation of American sovereignty.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First solution is great. Now let's work on getting the politicians in Congress to vote for it. Second, takes a Constitutional Amendment.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We have lots of immigration quotas now. They vary by country. For instance, it is virtually impossible for a Mexican national without special skills to be admitted legally for permanent residence.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 10 months ago
    14 ft = two or three story house? Maybe in Mexico, with 2x4 joists, 5 ft ceilings and a sloping overhanging roof.

    When I was a kid, I used to thrill in jumping off my parents house, thinking it was a semi-super feat. One story in FL, 9 ft off the ground. I worked my way to the peak of the roof, which was ~6 more feet. This is 15 ft; however, I did it from my feet on the roof to the ground. It would be almost uninteresting to hang by your hands and drop to the ground. This fence is a trivial barrier, perhaps suitable for young children.

    Amazing position for any mainstream person to take. Now if it had a moat, with alligators...that would be a great reality show.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 9 years, 10 months ago
    This is an example of situational ethics which is a lot like a hookers "negotiable virtue". When your moral compass has been "degaussed" all bets are off.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can't disagree with you. But, this is the first I heard of Mexicans sending money north. That's interesting.

    The border seems to be just an illusion, set in place for political games and nothing more.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 10 months ago
    what if the fence builders topped of the fence with razor wire like they have at prisons. then nobody will try to climb the fence and break bones landing on the US side. aklso they will not necessarily have to build the fence as high. so we have a savings in fence material as well as medical costs.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Even better, also put in mine fields, snipers and armed patrols. Our vets could do that job.
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  • Posted by believer83 9 years, 10 months ago
    Should build it higher! Better yet, re-initiate immigration quotas. Reopen Ellis Island!
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 10 months ago
    solution to illegal immigratoin: 1) issue work cards to anyone wanting to come here to work that do not grant civilization or freebie government benefits or minimum wage and other workplace regulations not specifically agreed to by the business owners.

    2) Do not grant citizenship to anyone who is simply born here but doesnt have parents who are citizens
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That must be why after the economic crash of the US in 2008 Mexicans were sending money north to their relatives. The border is in fact open by the choice of los gringos who have not the capacity to defend their own nation. But much of the border business is media propaganda such as the dangers of living in Mexico.

    If it's such a big deal how come companies like Tysons get away with hiring illegals? Simple they set up $100,000 donations to the right politicians. Why not? the politicians own the justice department there's no danger in taking bribes and you still get votes into office.

    USM has nothing in the way of corruption to match to match the USA
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 10 months ago
    America has, and will continue to be, the pressure relief valve for Mexico. Without the open border Mexico would have exploded long ago. That's our role. I may not like it. But, I have no say in it.
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 10 months ago
    I guess Eric Holder could start an ambulance chaser practice there now that he's out of work.
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  • Posted by broskjold22 9 years, 10 months ago
    This article is like wine, it makes you laugh and then it makes you sad. What do I mean by that? Well, humanism is the name given now to altruism, and humanism is the claim behind allowing illegals (who do happen to be unspeakably poor) to cross into the US and pursue work to survive. It sounds almost "inhuman" not to do all we can for these starving, sick "economic refugees". What if you were in their shoes? The proponents ask. And THAT is altruism. That those who have more give to those who have less in order to make the needier lives incrementally less miserable. Why not! Why not? The trader principle for one, the right to property another, and the right to life as a primary. The US cannot guarantee ANYTHING to ANYONE other than RIGHTS to its CITIZENS. If it does more, as is the case now, it bankrupts itself, both economically and morally. If it does less, as is also the case now, it bankrupts itself, both culturally and morally. The rules of reality cannot change to meet the altruists' creed. A is A. Money created out of thin air to meet this humanist "obligation" is financed by American taxpayers. And no, it is not a consistent argument to say, well, Mexican-Americans pay taxes too. That is a racist argument, and those who propel it should be identified as the worst sort of collectivists.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    First of all. fence could not get any lower for those going south. I live in fear of that day.

    Second on the boo hoo medical issue when the US made it impossible to bring children up to LA to Shriners for treatment treating them like terrorists the doctors from up north started coming south. In my adopted family we have one with Cerebral Palsy and cleft palate. Three trips back and forth and each took a year of savings. for the family until I showed up and bought the bus tickets. Now we take the child up to the main city in this state and the doctors triage as much as they can do. But that women could have availed herself of the same opportunity.

    Third. Medicines and treatment is not all that expensive in Mexico except for major surgeries. Often the rates even for gringos are less than what we would pay for insurance in obamaland. The cost of a bus ticket to southern Mexico where she resides or visits might very well have been less than the medical costs and going without the child showed a distinct lack of interest.Local groups like Rotary often help out when needed.

    Fourth - Was she arrested for unsafe jumping?

    That newspaper is a mouthpiece for La Raza by the way. An attempt to get some kind of last minute whatever out of Obeyme
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