CHILE - Is it Gulchable?

Posted by Frank899 4 years, 9 months ago to Going Galt
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Chile is an amazing country in so many ways. And, in my opinion, it's much more of a democratic republic than the USSA. But, is it “Gulchable”.

There have been three attempts at intentional libertarian-leaning communities in Chile. One went down in flames, one withdrawn and one on hold. What is it about Chile that would attract such interest and activity?

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  • Posted by Fish 4 years, 9 months ago
    Well, I'd like to believe your optimistic views are true, but as a chilean, I see a very likely decline on liberties of all kind. Hopefully this government will not succeed changing our constitution to the one she is longing for, which is against private property and economic freedom.
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    • Posted by 4 years, 9 months ago
      There was valid concern about Bachelet's election. So far, she has just proven to be a power broker. Her approval rating is so abysmally low right now, with even the leftists upset with her, I can't imagine her being able to accomplish any significant number of her campaign promises.
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      • Posted by Fish 4 years, 9 months ago
        Unfortunately, she already passed a tax reform that virtually stopped the economy (no more investments); and the educational reform already has an approved part that will end with the schools that were financed partly privately and part with a subsidy (a very good formula); and now the labor law reform is moving ahead with more restrictions, even for the workers.
        The only one left is the new constitution, violating even the law to change it. She is talking of a constitutional assembly, which is only possible if the current congress is disolved.
        She already did enough damage. And it is possible that she can do more. And apparently, she couldn't care less about the approval rate.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 4 years, 9 months ago
    I spent the month of December 2014 in Chile and fell in the love with the place. Indeed, it is unfortunate that it seems nations go into poverty (a la Greece), then bring in a government more free market oriented to save them, it does, then they revert back to the policies that brought them to poverty in the first place. It must be something in human nature.

    As the introduction to Robert LeFavre’s 1959 Book “The Nature of Man and His Government” said: “And thus we see the government is at once both protector and predator. It is not that governments begin in virtue only to end in sin. Government begins by protecting some against others and ends up protecting itself against everyone. This is the course of history.”

    I am returning to Chile for the month of November this year. Until the socialists move further down their path, it will be a great place.
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  • Posted by MikeGoodman59 4 years, 9 months ago
    I spent 10 weeks in Santiago, Chile in 1977. I later docked in Valparaiso when the merchant ship I was sailing on visited that port. I got to go back to see old friends, reminding me that if I were to expat in any western-style country in Latin America ... CHILE WOULD TOP THE LIST. There are 3000 N-S miles to choose from, the hot, arid desert to frigid Patagonia. The women are very attractive in a European style. Of course it's been 35+ years ... but all of my memories are fond ... just glad Pinochet is gone. That was the only bad one ... toque de queda (curfew) was not fun.
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  • Posted by Abaco 4 years, 8 months ago
    On our list of South American nations: Chile, Ecuador and Uruguay. I notice a financial district in Santiago and wonder if I could work there. I want to be able to work and support my family. I heard the gentleman who ran the podcast "Red Hot Chile" comment that the average American showing up down there has a pretty big pile of cash.

    It seems that the wealthy are fleeing the US.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
    If one would consider Chile, there is a lot of research that the individual needs to do. Is there someone or someplace that will answer the myriad questions a Gulcher would need answered. Moving to a foreign country is a very big step, even if it's a move taken with many others.
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    • Posted by 4 years, 9 months ago
      Herb: Please refer to the links in my post. My website has lots of valuable information to use in your research. The last link is to my consulting page - specifically to help with those myriad of questions still unanswered.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
        Thanks, will do. My birthday is today, but being 81 pretty much precludes a move to Chile or anywhere else. However, I can pass things along.
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        • Posted by 4 years, 9 months ago
          Herb: Happy Birthday! You're never too old. If you're still breathing ... I came to Chile at 50 without speaking a word of Spanish. That was almost three years ago. Now, I have a 15 year old daughter who's fluent and my wife and I are intermediate. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
            Sounds wonderful. However, at my age, I'm happy to see the dawn every morning. I live on the Gulf Coast of Florida in a former sponge fishing village. It's no Galt's Gulch, but it is pretty good. Besides, living in the USA gives me something to bitch about in my old age.
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            • Posted by $ Flootus5 4 years, 9 months ago
              Now that is really looking at the bright side!
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              • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
                Yes.
                The psychology of the elderly.
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                • Posted by $ Flootus5 4 years, 9 months ago
                  I hear ya. I am getting there. But your outlook is better than the psychology of the repressed and tyrannized. Which I feel right now, with my gold mine having just been taken by the feds for the sage grouse.

                  So, former sponge fishing? What happened? A species?
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                  • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
                    I shouldn't have said "former." There's still sponges being gathered by men in diving suits and helmets, but the source has been depleted. The sponge docks, however, have become a tourist attraction, with Greek restaurants, and sea food restaurants lining up along the street running parallel to it. The best Greek food outside of Athens if you choose to swing on by. There's a peninsula on the peninsula on the west coast of the east coast. You can't miss it. It's called Tarpon Springs. No tarpon here but during the winter months you can see many manatees gathering around the spring bayou to keep warm.
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                    • Posted by $ Flootus5 4 years, 9 months ago
                      The Greek food may have a whole lot more patrons coming your way here soon!

                      I had a Greek roommate in college years ago, great guy, he would bring some home cooked Greek food from home. Much of it was really good - but the emphasis on cooked spinach in too much of the food was way too much for me!

                      Relevance: There must be lots of free market choices for personal tastes in the Gulch! That should be one of the easiest objectives of all!
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        • Posted by JoleneMartens1982 4 years, 9 months ago
          Happy Birthday, Herb! Some of my better friends are between 70 and 90 and I believe they may disagree with you. Grandma is nearly 80 and she went to a Women's Rights summit last year in India. She his it from us all till she was leaving. She knew we'd try to talk her out of it.
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          • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 9 months ago
            I am a disabled grumbling old crank. I don't smoke or drink to excess, but my body is falling apart in increments anyhow. If my health were good -- then sign me up! Meanwhile, I'll keep stirring up trouble as best I can.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 9 months ago
    I'm just wondering when the censorship started - not in Chile in posts?
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    • Posted by 4 years, 9 months ago
      ?? To what censorship are you referring?
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 9 months ago
        Missing posts. Nothing controversial just some information on Cono Sur in general and Chile in particular. Along with the other glitches.Wondered if anyone else had noticed.

        Cono Sure is Argentina, Chile, Uruguay = the southern cone and the comment was they are more Euro-Latino than Latinos further north or in Central America and Mexico.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 4 years, 9 months ago
          I have had some particular threads deleted of my comments - this was accidental and was rectified by the IT management of the site after I reported it.

          Jan
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 4 years, 9 months ago
            I wasn't sure there have been of late some strange stuff on the site.I wasn't sure if it affected more than me or if it was software or machine glitch as opposed to an individual. perhaps an infestation of the Lakoff Soros Lewis group. Not like we aren't easy to find and they usually have on of their sock puppets stop by with the latest inanities. Lakoff is the guy behind Carville for those sorts of things. but strange to find it on this type of thread.

            In any case you take the other countries as they are and enjoy - especially Chile. From top to bottom. I also like Bolivia but it sort of stops there with Cono Sur and some parts of Brazil. I always remind myself of huesped which is Spanish for guest and learn some of the dos and don'ts and some of the good and bad phrases and words. Palabras verde or green words are Palabras rojo in other parts and correspond to our blue words. Though they respect trying and using their language so most will understand and play the language teacher.
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            • Posted by $ jlc 4 years, 8 months ago
              I live in Los Angeles, so I find it handy to speak some Spanish. I would enjoy living in a Spanish speaking country for some months...I think that I could become fluent; Spanish is a beautiful language. I lived in Spain for 3 years as a child and I feel comfortable with many aspects of the Latino culture.

              I do doubt that Peru would be better than the US for a Gulch, though...say, Texas.

              Jan, not comfy with 'machismo' however
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