As close as I would wanna get. a Intellectual community can't stay on top without internet information News of surrounding area. This is an advanced society I am talking about building not a Mennonite homestead.

OK, so in ancient times things were that way. How long ago was that? Thousands of years? Even Hundreds of years? Not years or even decades ago, so why is it magically going to change within your lifetime or mine? The cycle of the earth is measured in eons or centuries, not decades or years. Yes, things are changing but it is not like Al Gore is an expert in the earth's cycles. I mean back in the 80's they were touting the next ice age, now, a short 30 years later, we are going to have grapes growing in the Arctic regions. Sorry, but do you know what permafrost is? If we go hot, Alaska will be nothing but a big swamp along with most of northern Canada.

I can't help but notice that most of the posts on here are a bit more paranoia that someone's after you than a solution base. If you build it they will come is what I'm gonna go with found three sites. Two are just a matter of buying up all the pre existing infrastructure ridding town of current city officials,(easy in democratic society Read "Socrates weeps as Plato Grins" Use new currency for everyday life (Beats taxman) run self sufficient society with exports outside community paying for imports( run like federal gov should but everyone involved. Better schools. the ppl there should be well equipped to advance our genetically superior children. This is not only possible it's not that difficult.

You need to research this from ancient materials that the propaganda machine AKA Agenda 21 people haven't touched. Follow the wine grape growing and human migration. Wine grapes seem to be the best preserved and most ancient records ever kept lol. The data is pretty undisputable and the reason we have gotten hit with these winters is because the artic has had warm winters and their weather stream has tracked way down. I don't post what I think unless I have researched something and I never take someone elses word until I have background them thoroughly. Believe what you like, that's the whole point, If through my research I am correct then I should keep the crops and food without having to support the non believers and let them go without. Randianism at its best.

I had an uncle who did that. But if anything it makes you *more* dependent on outside civilization -- unless you want to take all your money along in cash and hope you don't get robbed, by police or anyone else.

The Gulch did not have a force field, but it did have a good optical illusion hiding it -- and I agree that a hologram might do the trick. Of course, if we got anybody mad enough at us, I don't think a hologram would fool night vision scopes.

I just spent most of the week at the porcupine festival run by the free state project in NH. Interesting place. Beautiful state - at least the northern part. Although it is surrounded by soviet socialist republics.

Bless you. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
But basically, yes. What though would we write on the paper inside?
I swear by my life, and my love of it... :)

Kind of like an objectivist mezuzah!

There is a dollar sign on my door. Still waiting..... :) Not idly though..

Can I get dibs on being the IT department for that place? If you are going to have 120 people, then IT really would be a one man job, and once its set, I'll be honest, not a full time effort, which is why IT is so often salaried rather than hourly.... on the up side, when something really does break, you get to work us to the bone fixing it without a drop of overtime.

I would not want "them" to be looking for me at all.

Need a force field? Any one see the 'TED' talk with a presenter as a hologram that had substance. One that fooled the introductory hand shaker. I say...it we can create that! We can create a force field...

Absolutely. A network of people with various skills will be very handy. We can also trade in gold or silver coins or whatever we want, so long as we do it quietly and hide in plain sight

Agreed. A good way to get from here to there is for each of us to spend some significant portion of our time creating, nurturing and growing local Objectivist networks. Ways to do that (and what doesn't work) might make for a good topic.

FYI. Before you start thinking about a Gulch that far north, first read "Twilight of Abundance," by David Archibald.

If you put one penny on the first square of a chessboard, two pennies on the second square, 4 pennies on the third square, and so on, you would have over 9 quadrillion pennies on the 64th square. An army isn't needed; just a commitment for each invitee to bring in at least 2 worthies.

New Hampshire is looking good...
https://freestateproject.org/about/101-r...

The best thing the fictional gulch had going for it was that no body could find it, accidental or otherwise. That would be impossible in today's world.

So I think the best place to build would be on Mars.

I was the crane engineer for k25 in oak ridge for
years. . do you have patents? -- j
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did you love that movie, too?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

it's SO descriptive!!! -- john
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I know where that is, but I haven't been there. We're north on the Minnesota side. It is beautiful and isolated, but winter is brutal.