Sad. I cannot believe that there are people with this train of thought still out there. Well, they are out there. For one of them to commit such a heinous crime is beyond me. He made the statement that he wanted to start a Race Riot. That sounds like something Charles Manson wanted to do. There are those on both sides who wish to see this, Blacks and Whites. I wasn't raised in that kind of environment. My dad was in the Army. We grew up predominately on Post. I didn't see "Segregation".We didn't live in the Civilian world in the Late 60's. When we went off post, that's when we'd see the "Segregation". And don't let yourself be found in one of those Segregated Neighborhoods after dark whether you're Black or White. If someone thinks that it has gotten better in Vidor, TX, think again. East Texas is a HOT Spot for White Supremacy Groups. I know that in the town of Rising Sun, MD there are no Black Families as far as I know. It's our Leaders and other so called "Political/Reverends" who keep that Segregation alive and well. They want this agitation between the Races to continue and spiral out of control.
For him to pick a Church to do this is beyond me. I thought we were beyond killing in Churches. It looks as though he took that straight from the M.O. of ISIS killing Christians. It was an easy pick. No one had a Weapon for Protection of that Church and the Congregation. Now, their using this as another reason to take away our weapons and abolish the 10th 14th and the 2nd Amendments. I never saw a Soldier in Combat leave his Weapon at his Vehicle or Tent during Religious Services. Why should we have to leave Our Weapons at home or in the car? Why do we need a Permit or CHL to carry that weapon for Protection of Self, Family, Friends and Society as a whole? We shouldn't have to get the Governments Permission to Carry a Weapon. Especially for those who have been properly trained on how and when to use a Weapon.
The boy used the wrong Symbolism (Confederate Flag). The Confederate Flag stood for States that were fighting for State Separation from the overpowering of the Federal Government. Slavery was not a major issue. The Klan and other White Supremacy Groups all use that Flag for the wrong symbolism. They are abusing that Flag.

The purpose of the 2nd amendment was to protect US from our government in case the government got out of hand. No wonder Obama wants guns outlawed !!

I think that violence IS increasing as people are more stressed out and the economy gets more flaky. Probably the percentage of nut cases roaming the streets hasnt changed, but the overall population has increased, yielding more nut cases in total out there. Stress them out as I noted, and more of them go off the deep end. Plus our media makes them famous now. If I was a nut case, I would enjoy the media attention and I would realize I needed to "top" the last nut case killing(s) to get on the news.

It has to be a false flag. Time is running out for 0 to provoke an "uprising" sufficient to justify promoting himself to Dictator for Life.

I would say then that the thoughts that you laid out originally were not clear.

Tragic lone nut phenomenon. It is not worth more thought than that imho except to utterly and with contempt crush those that would disarm everyone to ensure the occasional violent disturbed person has to use some other means other than guns.

No, But lets put things together, his parents are ultimately responsible for him, not just his physical well being but psychological well being as well. Yes school helps build, but a schools hands are ties as to how far they can recommend help for a child. When push comes to shove the parents are the first line in bringing the child up, A child also is not born coming into this world with that much hatred. That is learned, and most often a childs sense of right and wrong comes from the parents. We can point fingers until the cows come home. The parents of a drunk driver may or may not have bought the car, but where did the drunk driver get the booze and where did he learn to drink. The sins of the father are indeed passed on from generation to generation. What I am trying to get across here, is the WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, HOW and WHY this wanker did what he did. What is HIS history as it applies to this case. And it should NOT be used as a new excuse to change the 2nd Amendment for the "Good of the Public" That is precisely the point I was trying to make. Everyone runs to one conclusion, and wants to amend the Constitution because of one idiot, be they citizen or be they cop, every time one of these incidents happens. Everyone wants to jump on the Gun Control bandwagon.

I know there is no answer to this, but I can't help wondering how liberals can be so illogical. How do they not get that the criminals who perform these acts aren't going to follow any gun control laws?? Not to mention the fact that our only defense against these nuts is a sane armed person who can stop them.
Are they sending subliminal messages through reality shows and 'main stream' news? Drugs in the Perrier?
Obummer has committed acts that Nixon wouldn't dream of, but no one seems to care. And I just read that Hellary wants to print more fake money to 'solve' the budget crisis. Could it just be pure hatred and jealousy a la Atlas Shrugged? Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I just wish I could understand ...

Immediately, this incident is used for another call for gun control, as if that would help. The thought of the President's ire, had the killer used an "assault" rifle, is too frightening to consider.

"Easy" access to guns was NOT the motivating factor in this case...the killer didn't stand up and say "I'm exercising my Second Amendment right" before opening fire. He said he was there to kill black people.

The deaths of these people are tragic (and make me think the gas chamber should make a comeback), but this incident is no worse than the numerous other similar shootings that have happened in the past several years. Nobody mentions the shooting of 4 white cops by a black ex-con, in Lynnwood, WA, with as much emotion, yet, though it happened in a café and not a church, it was the same thing. Regardless of the reason, killing cops, killing blacks, killing just for killing, should be punished, rapidly and finally.

I've heard, time and time again, that capital punishment is not a deterrent...I disagree. Capital punishment will deter at least one person from doing such a thing (again). Let's move forward with punishing law breakers and leave the law abiding citizens alone.

Your absolutely correct. This is presicley why the Second Amendment was worded the way it was, that there be NO restrictions on the people's ability to defend themselves.

Totally agree. As someone once said, "an armed society is a polite society", or something like that.

All the gun control laws on the books, and any new ones the anti-gun freaks can come up, would have made any difference in this case or any of the others in the past. The shooters were all nuts and determined to do what they did. Laws do not mean anything to the insane nor the criminals in our society.
The insane do not care what the laws are, they are on a mission of their own making and could care less what laws they break.
The criminals will break laws to get what they want without working for it, taking it from the folks who work for their stuff.
Laws mean nothing to either group. The insane because they don't live in the real world, they live in the one inside their heads. The criminals because they don't care what laws they break as long as they can get away with whatever it is they want to do.

So even if that was true, by your logic, the parents of a drunk driver should be jailed if they bought the car? Does liability and culpability extend only to physical items? What about his school? It shaped his thinking and personality. And if the gas station didn't allow him to get gas, he would not have been able to get to his murder spree. No doubt, if we dig deep enough, you too will be found culpable.

Initial News Reports...there was one video of one of the investigating officials stating that, but it has since been retracted

I agree with the pundit who asserted that concealed
carry would have solved it on the spot. . yet it's a
sorry observation about our culture when you need
to go to church armed. -- j
.

It seems that ever since BHO took office, race relations have gotten worse. For some reason this type of tragic incidents have increased during his 2 terms. I beginning believe some of the conspiracy theories about these incidents that the Prez is behind it. He is a still a member of the Bill Ayres fan club.
What bothers me is that Fox has reported that the father gave the young crazy son the gun for his birthday and it was not registered weapon. So, it was an illegal hand gun, then why wasn't the father arrested? I don't understand any of this!
The President shouldn't have gotten involved. He is still trying to show how black he is to the Black Community.