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The shooting in Charleston: Your thoughts

Posted by Eudaimonia 10 years ago to Culture
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No link provided, by now we all know the basics of what happened.

I will post my thoughts as separate comments.

May the victims all find peace.


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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Does the First Amendment not require tremendous responsibility? Should the government tell you what you can or cannot say, or would you leave that decision to me? From now on, please forward everything that you wish to say to me for approval/disapproval. Thank you.
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  • Posted by H6163741 10 years ago
    1- if one (non-psycho) person in the church had been armed, the incident could have been avoided or at least minimized.
    2- If a young person has nothing positive to do (ie JOB, school; something he/she can be proud of ...), he/she may turn to negative activities (ie crime). The welfare state has exponentially increased all types of crime, from graffiti to murder.
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  • Posted by Danno 10 years ago
    There is no 100% safety. Only fools strive for it like Obama.
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  • Posted by RonJohnson 10 years ago
    Horrified. Those poor people, those poor families! These murders are the more heinous because they seemed to have been premeditated. The victims were intended targets and didn't know it.

    Roof was taking anti-depressants that have the side effect of homicidal ideation. I don't know how much responsibility the drug companies and the prescribing doctor should bear, but they are probably not guilt free.

    I also question the wisdom of buying a disturbed young man a handgun. When my son was about Roof's age, I would NEVER have given him a lethal weapon. He was just too unpredictable. I enjoyed shooting as a youngster and I would have loved to have shared that with my son, but prudence said that would have been a bad move. Judgment call.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The 2nd amendment is not there so we can go shoot Bambi. It is there so we can defend ourselves from a tyrannical government. That nessesetates things like AK 47s and Ar 15s
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years ago
    He's guilty. He should be convicted of murder, put in prisoned until he's executed. As hateful as the crime was by his own confession, his murdering human beings is more heinous than his crime.
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  • Posted by waytodude 10 years ago
    I will never understand why any on of any race can do these acts other than a mental disorder that cannot be corrected. When the insane are allowed to walk freely amongst us this will always happen. When the Obama s of this world complain that this doesn't happen in other civilized countries is it because they care for the mentally insane.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 10 years ago
    After we find out how this kid was unstable, we need to get rid of him before he consumes any more food, air or taxpayer money. I don't care if he is crazy. There are a lot a people, and we don't need this one.
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  • Posted by StephSCO 10 years ago
    I'm with Gov. Haley on this one: Dylann Roof absolutely, positively deserves nothing less than the death penalty. It went into that church with murder on its' mind (I'm not going to dignify the killer by referring to it by its' gender), so why should we coddle the little creep and say, "Aww, it's just a nutbag, and we should forgive it."

    If it were my call, I'd let one of the family members of the victims flip the switch on that jackwagon. "It" deserves no mercy.
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 10 years ago
    This individual had a corrupted mind, drug user, most likely a loaner... blamed the current problems in America on an ethnicity. This shows the problem with our educational system. It is not taught that blacks and whites worked, worshiped and intermarried from the earliest days of the colonies. It doesn't explain that the 1st recorded slave owner was in Massachusetts and was a black man that owned a white and black slave. It doesn’t explain that Harriet Tubman’s 1st husband was actually a black slave owner that actually bought and shared her as a slave with another slave owner.
    Without knowing the truth…The oppressors in leadership win using battles between us to keep us from seeing them taking over our rights and freedoms.

    We need to wake up to this quickly, time is surely running out for our republic.
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  • Posted by jdmatthew 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Your post is filled with contradiction. You fear this will threaten the Second Amendment, yet you advocate bringing the father up on charges. You say that you support citizens ownership of guns, but you advocate for government determining what citizens can own guns.
    It is the very fact that the existenceof restrictions on the ownership and possession of wepons in public that incourage these attacks.
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  • Posted by Stormi 10 years ago
    You knew bit O would play either the race card or the gun card. No concern for the victims, this is an opportunity. Now he can push gun control harder, and please his UN buddies who want guns gone.
    Too many young people are a mess, and I think it is from having their minds messed with from kindergarten on in public schools. Then they are medicated. They do do irrational, to us, things, and people die. Guns are not the issue, what is the issue is why won't politicians see that the issue is not guns, schools maybe. This kind of person would have killed with fire, explosive and any number of ways, he did not need a gun.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years ago
    If we are honest, and we mostly are here in the Gulch, the issue of craziness comes first and the bigotry second. The bigotry is the offspring of the madness. Another bit of psychosis is the father who, knowing that his son was at the very least unbalanced, gave his wif'e gun to the kid as a present. This makes him just about as guilty in my book.
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  • Posted by nln1219 10 years ago
    I fear that instead of focusing on the mentally ill/ insane it will trigger a new round of threatening our Second Amendment. Our Gov, so LOVES their smoke and mirrors. My question is his father bought him this weapon for his 21st Birthday. In my mind the father is as culpable as the son. Should they not be bringing in the father as well? Guns do not kill people, People kill people...we have to do a better job of keeping weapons OUT of the hands of those who have no business having them. Not taking them away from Law Abiding Citizens. What is happening across our nation is an aberration
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  • Posted by nln1219 10 years ago
    I fear that instead of focusing on the mentally ill/ insane it will trigger a new round of threatening our Second Amendment. Our Gov, so LOVES their smoke and mirrors. My question is his father bought him this weapon for his 21st Birthday. In my mind the father is as culpable as the son. Should they not be bringing in the father as well? Guns do not kill people, People kill people...we have to do a better job of keeping weapons OUT of the hands of those who have no business having them. Not taking them away from Law Abiding Citizens. What is happening across our nation is an aberration
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  • Posted by nln1219 10 years ago
    I fear that instead of focusing on the mentally ill/ insane it will trigger a new round of threatening our Second Amendment. Our Gov, so LOVES their smoke and mirrors. My question is his father bought him this weapon for his 21st Birthday. In my mind the father is as culpable as the son. Should they not be bringing in the father as well? Guns do not kill people, People kill people...we have to do a better job of keeping weapons OUT of the hands of those who have no business having them. Not taking them away from Law Abiding Citizens. What is happening across our nation is an aberration
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    What was also extremely telling was that immediately after this press conference, Obama went straight to a fundraising dinner. Shameful doesn't even begin to describe these actions.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years ago
    It's unbelievable that this happened. I feel for the people that are left to pick up the pieces after this. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic but had a couple people in that church been carrying, the outcome could have been much different. These type of events remind me of our responsibility to protect ourselves.

    Also I'm appalled at the comments from our dear leader. One more time it is twisted to condemn the gun and not the shooter. That damn gun just jumped right up in his hands and started shooting. We'd be better off if he would just go golfing for the rest of his term.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The whole idea behind socialism is that there are no individuals. Everyone is part of a group. There are groups that are part of the establishment and there are groups that are "reactionary" and are a perpetual enemy. The dielectic must exist; class warfare is the design.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years ago
    It's unbelievable that this happened. I feel for the people that are left to pick up the pieces after this. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic but had a couple people in that church been carrying, the outcome could have been much different. These type of events remind me of our responsibility to protect ourselves.

    Also I'm appalled at the comments from our dear leader. One more time it is twisted to condemn the gun and not the shooter. That damn gun just jumped right up in his hands and started shooting. We'd be better off if he would just go golfing for the rest of his term.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 10 years ago
    Yet another mass murder in a gun-free zone. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but places where the public is banned from carrying sure seem like easy targets.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 10 years ago
    Yet another mass murder in a gun-free zone. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but places where the public is banned from carrying sure seem like easy targets.
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  • Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 10 years ago
    Having been born in Greenville (the upstate, whereas Charleston is in the "low country" as Carolinians refer to it), my heart was broken when I heard the news of the tragedy in Charleston. Nine families lost loved ones due an act of pure evil. My thoughts and prayers go out to those families who lost loved ones, and to the Charleston community.
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