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The shooting in Charleston: Your thoughts

Posted by Eudaimonia 10 years ago to Culture
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No link provided, by now we all know the basics of what happened.

I will post my thoughts as separate comments.

May the victims all find peace.


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  • Posted by Esceptico 10 years ago
    Michael Shermer has pointed out in retrospect it is easy to see the signs of impending nutty action by an individual. But not all these signs lead to nutty action and to follow up on all these possibilities is not only infeasible but would lead to an overwhelming police state---something we Objectivists oppose. And, as loud and often as these terrible events seem to be, the statistics show violent crime has been deceasing, which is good news in general although it does not help the victims of a particular crime.
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  • Posted by samrigel 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Our "leaders" have failed us because we, as whole, ask them to lead. They are not our leaders, they are our Representatives. But because we keep asking for leaders rather than Representation this is what we get. This was a despicable and horrific crime but no more or less so than any of the other crimes we have experience in recent years. The difference is in our Representation. Since we have told them we need leadership it is there ideology they use to attempt a solution to crimes like this rather than using the known causes of the mental illness. I don't need a leader, I need someone who represents everyone and can make decisions based in facts and not in ideology. And can we stop blaming a tool and start blaming the person or persons and the actual causes?
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  • Posted by RobertFl 10 years ago
    Apparently he was taking Suboxone (I read that on NaturalNews). Omnce again, SSRI drugs.
    Guns aren't the problem, it's BigPharma. But, the FDA isn't going to stop this. Could you imagine the lawsuits that would fly. BigPharma is too big to fail.
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  • Posted by rbunce 10 years ago
    Dude should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. I am coming off capital punishment by governments as they seem to be able to screw this up as they do anything they deal with. We also need to make it clear to everyone that there are no races in our species based on biology/genetics. Race is a social construct based on self identification. This was not just a cold blooded premeditated multiple murder but also for absolutely no reason.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    What was also extremely telling was that immediately after this press conference, Obama went straight to a fundraising dinner. Shameful doesn't even begin to describe the actions of this deplorable race-baiter-in-chief.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    What was also extremely telling was that immediately after this press conference, Obama went straight to a fundraising dinner. Shameful doesn't even begin to describe the actions of this deplorable race-baiter-in-chief.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years ago
    By now we pretty much know the shooter had a drug habit, and the drugs involved were anti-depressants and similarly acting stimulants. I would like to think my pastor, his assistant, and/or the deacons would have figured this guy's case during the stages of evaluation for membership: telephone interview with the pastor, followed by a visit by at least two deacons.

    And I start to wonder something else: did somebody program him to kill? If this were the AS world, I would point my finger directly at Floyd Ferris.
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  • Posted by deanhcross 10 years ago
    Today.....racism is perpetuated by the very people who claim to abhor it. It's the Statists who require, and maintain, the "group think" mentality to advance their agendas and who stifle the kind of peaceful coexistence possible through individualism.
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  • Posted by gcarl615 10 years ago
    My reaction is that this guy is one sick puppy. The pastor he killed, from I can read, was a bright shining light in a violent world. What a shame. My thoughts go out to all the family's of the victims.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years ago
    It's ghastly. Racially motivated mass shootings are rare. It's like the risk of some extremely rare disease are bizarre freak accidents. It's not a sign of some massive problem in our society that requires extraordinary action.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Martial Law has always been in the Golfer's
    mind. He calls this latest tragedy 'senseless
    violence' but described the Ft. Hood murders
    as "work place violence" - Two 'senseless'
    tragedies, and he's #3.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Martial Law has always been in the Golfer's
    mind. He calls this latest tragedy 'senseless
    violence' but described the Ft. Hood murders
    as "work place violence" - Two 'senseless'
    tragedies, and he's #3.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Racists For Hire would never let a good crisis go to waste. Especially when there was money to be made. Did Michael Moore show up? I believe they were in the same class of agitprop artists
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 10 years ago
    I read. Where Mr. Obama discussed the root causes of gun violence with a group of Hollywood swells at a $33,400-plate intimate supper. My question is this: what can someone who can pay $33,400 for supper possibly know about ANY kind of violence, let alone gun violence?

    The shooting was gut wrenching, particularly given that it happened in an house of peace. (As an aside, the shooter couldn't have been that messed up on drugs...he didn't try to shoot up a bar in the 'hood where he might well have ended up as a red stain on the pavement.)

    I suppose Reverend Al will be there to comment how all white people are racist dogs whose only ambition in life is to shoot innocent black people. The DoJ has seemingly already reached that conclusion.

    Makes ya wanna sh!t in your flat hat...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The use of the words white and black are the unfortunate part. Damn shame the government is th main proponent of racism. Ah well. Let's go look at the story and week out the propaganda from fact - if possible. Going to be hard to find an unbiased jury on this one.
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  • Posted by 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    There was a mass shooting in Charleston South Carolina yesterday.

    A 21 yo white man gunned down 12 black people in a bible study group.
    9 died.

    The gun man was reported to have made racial remarks to the people he let survive.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years ago
    i don't have a clue and short of investing time in another search for information which may not be the information you had but would not share.....
    how about a hint? Which Charleston in which state?
    I'll have to plead no comment as I don't vote before I've read the bill.
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  • Posted by jdmatthew 10 years ago
    Rioting over racially decisive Police actions. The purging of all High Ranking Officers in the Military who say they will uphold The Constitution over The President. Now Christians Massacred in there House of worship. Dose anyone still thing that Marshal Law will not be declared before the 2016 elections?
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years ago
    Hello Eudaimonia,
    One seriously messed up kid.... Sad, sad story for the victims and their families. It will probably be exploited by the race baiters. Around here, many years ago, public mental health facilities were closed down and people with problems were put out on the street with no concern for the public. Laws were changed that made it harder to have someone committed too. Just more political nonsense without any consideration for unintended consequences. Of course there was concern some people could be unfairly committed, but safeguards like multiple opinions from psychiatrists could have mitigated the problems. Solutions aside from creating potential mayhem seem to escape the ruling class...
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    We are caught in the middle. The government is pushing on anything they can to expand control. They are not concerned with consequences to their actions, only expanding control.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Tech, I agree with you that the powers that be are pushing hard for a race war. I find it heartbreaking; as a white woman who grew up in the deep South when desegregation was taking place, I was hopeful that we could become a color-blind society. It's so easy; you just have to look at every person as an individual! I have wondered what it must be like to be a person of color in today's America. I had a black woman as a patient back in 2008 who told me: imagine what's it's like for me. Everyone assumes I love Obama because he is black, and I hate what he stands for.
    It just seems to me that all of us, white and black, are being caught in the middle and being used and abused by the people in power, who for someone crazy reason want a race war.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Washington seems to be pushing hard for a race war as it is. Might explain how quick they are to label ANYTHING involving blacks and whites at the same time as a hate crime if a white instigates it. Of course it never gets labelled as a hate crime if a black instigates.
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  • Posted by 10 years ago
    Thought: our "leaders" have failed us.

    When I lived in the PRC, I lived 15 - 20 miles away from both Sandy Hook and the Petit home invasion.
    I believe that violent crimes by the mentally ill are getting worse.

    Our "leaders" are no longer interested in "peace and prosperity", they are interested in agitation and "justice" (revenge).

    There are probably just as many mentally ill people now as there ever have been.
    But, for the most part, they lived with leaders who believed in peace and prosperity, so they did not have the pressure of constant social unrest to set them off.

    Now, we have the agitators.

    There is no peace.
    There is no prosperity.

    There is only "the struggle".

    The *sane* among us feel constantly uneasy.... by design.

    Our "leaders" have failed us.
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