She was told to return four days later because the government hates children.

F'n perve should get a bat upside the head...

Agreed.

A life sentence, or death penalty, should be the only options for cases like this one.

no, I basically agree-but I'm not checking out any websites ;) thanks for taking the time to clarify. parents will still be parents=reality. This article though is about a crime. a heinous crime. I believe crimes of this nature should qualify for the death penalty.

Hey, Khalling.

I'm sorry for the abuse here. I ended up writing way more than I was expecting... (I really needed to practice my English though, so there's that!)

Yes, the key word here is consent, and I'm not sure if this issue is actually black and white. I mean, murdering innocent people clearly is evil, no matter when and where the action took place. In the same way, sex with prepubescent children is also evil, as they have absolutely no idea about what sex is. But what about children who are past prepubescent age?

I believe there are many 14-15 year-old kids who are way more mature about sex than many 18 year-old teens out there. Being 18 doesn't magically make someone sexually responsible. Those arbitrary numbers really don't make much sense to me... I mean, you guys can only drink when you're 21? Oh my. US guys in the military can kill people, but can't have a beer? xD

Every situation should be judged accordingly, I suppose. When I was 15 I knew quite well what sex was, for example, and I'd have loved to consent to having sex with a 22 year old stud! I mean, young boys drool over older women on playboy all the time, it's not that absurd haha.

If I did have sex with an older guy though, what would happen to him? Well, my parents would probably ruin the poor guy's life... He would possibly be jailed and labeled as a child molester/pedophile, for what was a consensual sex with a 15 year-old sexually mature boy! No matter how much I protested, no matter how much I told my parents that he didn't want it at first because of the age difference but I insisted on us going ahead anyway... My words would have no acceptance, and I really don't think that's just. =/

Pedophilia has a very broad meaning today though. I like this classification down here more:

"Pedophiles: prepubescent children;
Hebephile: children at the cusp of puberty, 11 to 14 years of age;
Ephebophiles (from ephebos, meaning “one arrived at puberty” in Greek), who are mostly attracted to 15- to 16-year-olds;
Teleiophiles (from teleios, meaning, “full grown” in Greek), who prefer those 17 years of age or older."

The ones who go for prepubescent children deserve no sympathy at all. The last two ones though, should never be a problem, I suppose. And I'm not sure where I stand on the second one... 11, 12 and 13 seems way too low.

Now, about fantasizing, I'm not sure. Isn't it better to have people watching porn with consenting 15 year-olds instead of repressing those urges and unleashing them on a younger sibling? Also, making some stuff illegal only makes it worse for everyone, right? By making drugs illegal people will eventually buy them on the streets, increasing violence for everyone... When people were buying drugs on the Silk Road website, that's a lot of people buying safer drugs with high level of purity from the safety of their homes. Everybody wins!

By making consenting teenage porn illegal, that's only going to send more money to the underworld. Like, lets be honest here, if a 15 year-old wants to make a porn in order to make some money, he or she is going to anyway. I'd rather have these people doing it safely and legally, instead of networking with dangerous people.

Still, life's a bitch. No situation can be judged easily, apparently... I mean, there are many really REALLY young girls in Malaysia doing 'cam-shows' with striptease to paying American men. Is that sad? Of course! If a kid is doing that, that's because she's in a very tough situation! No food to eat, she has to make money somewhere... But the adults now won't let kids work for a living, no matter how much they need it. So, what can they do in order to Survive? Porn. They can make strip-shows, safely, through the internet. Oh, but now even that's illegal! So, what else... Well, now they're going to sell their bodies on the streets, in order to make money dangerously around potential molesters.

The Free Market Solution would be letting these kids work, of course. However, if that's not a possibility, I'd rather have these kids doing these webcam shows online. That's really sad, but that's better than dying, I suppose. In the mind of the kid she's doing the rational and moral thing in order to survive, and the pedophiles paying for that are in a way helping her out... Even though they're doing something immoral? That's quite confusing.

If the porn has non-consenting children though, or prepubescent children, or children who are a bit older but haven't clearly expressed their desire to be part of it, then the ones filming it should be jailed for life. Nothing less. And the ones watching it are doing something CLEARLY immoral and irrational! (But I'm not sure if they should be punished for downloading something off the internet. I don't know what to think of that. I mean, if I watch the video of a real murder, a very 'goreish' one, does that make me a criminal...? Hell no! Even if someone watches it while pleasuring himself, that just means the person is a sick fuck... But the law has nothing to do about it. Child porn are also videos of crimes taking place, right? By watching the scene, and enjoying it, should the person be jailed? Not to mention that I'd rather have these people watching to old material, even if that's immoral, than making it illegal and having them film new ones with their own siblings. However, THEY DO fuel this disgusting industry! But, in the same way, those who like to watch movies of real crimes are also fueling this industry... But common sense tells me they shouldn't be jailed. Oh well. I really don't know what to think.)

Uh, statistics? I don't really have any, sorry! I just used my own reasoning to conclude that, and of course that could be terribly flawed. xD

A man is attracted to women. Does it mean he's going to rape a woman? No.
I'm attracted to men. Does it make me a potential rapist of other men? No. (Some straight men still think we want to abuse them. That's because many of them still don't understand us well. Ignorance = fear.)
Someone is attracted to kids. Does it make them a potential molester? No. (Everyone thinks they are the scum of the earth, and that they rape little kids whenever they can. That's because ignorance is still rampant.)

Take a look at the Virtuous Pedophiles website. o/

"We do not choose to be attracted to children, and we cannot make that attraction go away. But we can resist the temptation to abuse children sexually, and many of us present no danger to children whatsoever. Yet we are despised for having a sexual attraction that we did not choose, cannot change, and successfully resist. This hatred has its consequences; many of us suffer from depression and sometimes even commit suicide. Paradoxically, the hatred actually increases the risk of child sexual abuse by making us afraid to admit our condition to others, thus discouraging us from seeking treatment. More of us could lead productive, happy, law-abiding lives if we could open up to people who would treat us not as monsters but as human beings with an unfortunate burden to bear."

However, by repressing any one of these three, things get ugly. When homosexuality was morally reprehensible, the result was thousand of fake marriages taking place... In the same way, when pedophiles are ostracized, this only increases the number of kids being molested. =(

People tend to solve things through brute force instead of finding a better solution. That's really sad! Like, "Let's kill all those with leprosy before they infect our children!".

Someone didn't like that solution, and found a cure for the disease! Everyone wins. = )

-X-

Thank you for reading! And please, tell me if you find any flaw in my reasoning. My OCD couldn't find any, but I'm sure I must have overlooked some.

Take care!

WHAT!!?!?!?!??? Are they f'ing KIDDING?!?!! I had to yell there. Ahem.. Sooo they sit on their thumbs, while this continues to happen. Wonder if its someone they know....

a little. but macro- here's where I see a BIG difference. fantasizing about what two consenting adults ca do is different than fantasizing about adult relationships with children. Children cannot consent in ANY situation and so the fantasy is seriously flawed. AS well, child pornography is immoral. Even if a child has not been physically violated, the child porn industry fuels this sick thinking. Please show me statistics to prove your assertion that most pedophiles do not contribute in some way to child pornography or molestation. I am a mother-there is no way I can accept that pedophiles do not harm. I define child up to high school age(in our country 14-15). But unlike other countries, understand in the US, 14-15 years of age is still very much considered a child. I realize in other cultures this is not the case. But still-I am a mama- and so, I'm black and white about this-

I'll just leave this here:

People get pedophiles and child molesters mixed up all the time. Most pedophiles can go through life without ever hurting anyone.
To think that all pedophiles are child molesters is like thinking all men that are attracted to women are rapists.

Those who abuse kids deserve no mercy. Pedos, however, are good people in general. The more we ostracize them, and make it harder for them to get treatment, the more likely they are to abuse kids. =/

Is this line of reasoning correct? It kinda makes sense to me.

Repugnant! The officer should be fired and the perp. should see the rack!

Dumb cops!

We're surrounded by vermin, I tell you!

Most definitely. And there is a strange code of honor among these criminals. They might have murdered people, but they despise the pedophiles just as much as the rest if us. They'll take REALLY good care of him.

Yeah, good question. Once word gets out why he's in jail and eventually in prison. They'll take good care of him, as he get to play the part of a little 8 year girl before them. What comes around, goes around.