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IRS notified me of identity theft

Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago to Government
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Apparently some moocher filed taxes with my SSN and was expecting a refund. Surprise, surprise. I owed money, so the feds suspected something was up. Of course, when they confirmed that my identity had been stolen, they would not provide any information to help me track down the thief. The investigation will take up to 6 months. Fortunately none of my other accounts had been hacked ... yet.

Apparently my agent hadn't gotten the word discussed in the link above.

This is precisely why we need to abolish the IRS.


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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Once a convention is called, Congress has no control. Whatever the convention produces goes to the states to be ratified.

    Which is one reason Congress doesn't ever want to call one.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago
    Exactly the same thing happened to me couple of months ago. When I talked to the IRS they would give me no information and seemed completely uninterested in the info I had to give them. I had been burglarized in early January and I wanted to give them the police report number so they could coordinate their "investigation" with that of the police. They wouldn't take the information!
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just heard Koskinen on Fox news saying that these
    104 thousand hacks were the result of the associated
    personal information (ssn, etc.) already being out
    there, and someone exploiting the knowledge of
    the identities to try to get money out of the IRS.
    LifeLock may be able to solve this. . I Hope So!!! -- j
    .
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 8 years, 11 months ago
    Damn man. Sorry to hear about the horrible news. I couldn't agree more. BTW, that's why I always set the $$ the gov't doesn't need on my exemptions to always owe $$, never refund.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This was in the 80s. I since learned that many Govt. workers make their offices their home away from home. This wouldn't be allowed in most private sector jobs. I even knew a man who sold software for commercial purposes who had around 40 people manning the headsets. He required the men to wear business attire as well as the women. He felt that dressing well gave them a more business-like attitude. In my case, as my business' grew, I acquired better accountant firms who dealt with the IRS without bothering me. Since it was their responsibility and reputation when an IRS problem came up, they dealt with it and I rarely had to bother. I did learn that the accountants were more savvy than most of the IRS agents and knew the law better than they did. As a result From then on, I was mostly let alone.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Housedress? Mule=style slippers? Reason
    enough to flee, which sadly, seems to be the
    route most preferred for some of us lately. And
    what does that say about us?? Battle-weary?
    Fighting spirit all gone??? Not good!!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On the 3rd IRS encounter, I went to them. I had all my paperwork in order. I decided that I was going to fight the fact that I owed them around $800. I was so certain of my proof that I didn't even bring my accountant with me. I waited about ten minutes in the office of the agent. The person who arrived was a 5' 250lb black lady in a housedress wearing mule style carpet slippers. She had a scowl on her face, and .I quickly decided that there was no way I was going to win that battle, so I just whipped out my checkbook and got out of there ASAP. Don't tell me I should have fought. "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No matter where they derive the funds it's still a cost of doing business. the funds are invariably obtained by cutting profit margins, cutting service, or cutting product quality OR raising prices. If the market won't allow an increase they go out of business. If it will allow it but the margin is too low they have to decide is all this work worth the bother or not. Same conclusion. The only other consideration is political. How many employees. If negligible they disappear or move to another country to regain a proper profit/loss ratio in the final column If a huge amount they black mail the liberals into a too big to fail and besides no more campaign contributions scenario.

    At the end of the day it's all overhead minus all sales receipts equals profit or loss.The cost of collecting the tax for the government and passing it to the treasury takes an administrative unit of employees ergo sum cost of government.

    In Australia they use the COG column to define the total cost of doing business. Here we use fairy tales claiming businesses pay taxes instead of facing the fact that businesses are an arm of the Treasury Department - paid or not.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In certain cases, yes, the business can pass along 100% of the tax costs to the consumer. There are certain markets, however, that are very price-sensitive and competitive in which the company can not raise its prices sufficient to completely cover the cost of the tax and therefore must pay for the bill out of its own margins.

    Two other points for consideration:
    1. Higher prices lead to lower consumption. This is standard supply/demand 101. The sheer necessity of the business to raise its prices at the necessity of paying taxes prices some customers out of its market niche. Therefore the business suffers a decline accordingly.

    2. Consumers also lose out, both when they are effectively priced out of a market and because the higher costs of one product introduce additional opportunity costs.

    I object to corporate taxes for ALL of the above reasons.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. Fascist meaning control by any means includes methods not necessarily used by Nazis and Communists or others of the direct torture and elimination segment. Control of any citizens income, their medical, their education, the rearing of their children, and who they are allowed to vote for is just as insiduous and evil even though not one water board was used. so far.These things seem to progress in a regressive manner.

    The alternative is the end user consumption tax which puts each wage earner in charge of their spending or for their savings. I MIGHT go along with a Right To Life provision for certain items needed to simply exist and in a certain dollar amount or limit which would include all welfare as income. Food, Shelter, Clothing, Medicine, Air and water (for those in Detroit) After that what to purchase, for how much, and when is the citizens decision the price of which governs the amount of end user tax AS LONG AS it completely replaced the other taxes.None of this we'll keep that in reserve for emergencies crap. If the government doesn't have enough then let them downsize or better yet use the recall to force a downsize and a return to their real job as employees not masters. That is citizens controlling government by their vote and by their purchases. Dump the draft completely for a third way to vote join up or not join up. has to start somewhere But the Right To Life Exemption from end user consumption tax (like the sales tax free days in Florida. has some merit.

    Next question. Does it ban income tax at all levels? If not then that level gets no income from the End User Tax better yet a complete ban. rather than leave a 50 head medusa.

    Then as I've done explain the replacement as a freedom of choice measure. the opposite of a fascist no choice system. Government over citizens or citizens over government. There are only two choices and there should be only one. If Government over citizens is retained there should be only none.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The IRS' and EPA's putting fear into producers makes us error on the side of overcompliance.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Question? How much tax does any business pay?

    Answer: Zero.

    Like any other form of overhead it' gets added to the cost of doing business and passed on to the next level of buyer. All the way down to the end consumer who is the only taxpayer. the column heading is COG for Cost of Government. except maybe in the USA where play pretend is acceptable.
    COG follows all business related overhead and precedes adjusted profit or loss
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
    Amen to the last line. It's a fascist tax on it's face and has no reason to exist other than control of the population.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It can happen. I was audited twice in person by the IRS.I could write a novella about those experiences. The threat is there, even if not explicitly expressed.
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  • Posted by gaiagal 8 years, 11 months ago
    And why would members of the government want to abolish the IRS? or reform taxes in any way shape or form? For what reasons would you abolish, or reform, your source(s) of income?
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  • Posted by gcarl615 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    AHHH but they do threaten you with the implied point of a gun. You must comply or we will send jack boot thugs with many many guns to get your attention.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As long as the corrupt congress controls the results, there will be no progress toward liberty in any convention.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Personal Income taxes first, that eliminates the need for the IRS bureaucracy. (Of course the banksters won't allow it because it provides them with their interest payments and add to their power to enslave. Again its the corrupt con-gress that is the problem, and the people who waste their votes on the GOP.)
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know how they got this info. The IRS agent was not allowed to tell me, for "security reasons".
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The irony is that I have never filed taxes electronically until I did so this year on behalf of my parents, not myself.
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