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IRS notified me of identity theft

Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 1 month ago to Government
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Apparently some moocher filed taxes with my SSN and was expecting a refund. Surprise, surprise. I owed money, so the feds suspected something was up. Of course, when they confirmed that my identity had been stolen, they would not provide any information to help me track down the thief. The investigation will take up to 6 months. Fortunately none of my other accounts had been hacked ... yet.

Apparently my agent hadn't gotten the word discussed in the link above.

This is precisely why we need to abolish the IRS.


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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 1 month ago
    Dr. Jim, this guy Koskinen has been an obvious
    haughty, arrogant we'll-get-you-for-that mister nasty
    since we first saw him, and a letter from him would
    only be good for recycle, I'd say. . LifeLock has a
    good team, but I don't know if they can be called in
    "after-the-fact." . maybe they can. . they have
    helped my wife and me. -- j
    .
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 1 month ago
    Hello jbrenner,
    Yes! No more bean counting. No more IRS!
    Sorry about your troubles. The IRS is a threat to individual rights and security. I know too many people who have been ruined by them and this preposterous system.
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 1 month ago
    Unreal J! Best wishes getting this resolved. Agree, IRS needs to go.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 1 month ago
    That is only one reason for abolishing the IRS. Another one is that the IRS uses its power of intimidation and the threat of negative audits to cow most everyone. They are the closest thing to the Gestapo in the USA. True, they don't kill or torture, but they do threaten incarceration, which for the average citizen is scary enough.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 1 month ago
    We need to first abolish corporate income taxes. After that, abolish personal income taxes - preferably by repealing the Sixteenth Amendment. Then you can roll what is left of the IRS into Customs, since all they will be collecting are tariffs and import duties.
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  • Posted by alan 10 years, 1 month ago
    Part of the problem really lies in the IRS and almost everyone else using the SSN as a personal ID number -- for which it was never intended.

    The SSN itself is not self-validating as were the credit card numbers in the 1980s (as every C/C now uses the same formula for a single check digit).

    One can create a fictitious SSN by somewhat randomly selecting a nine digit sequence. Generally there is no verification by the IRS of the address provided with the return to determine if there is a difference from the IRS files -- because people do not use the mechanism originally established by the IRS requiring all filers to file a change of address form indicating old and new addresses.

    The IRS no longer has the personnel to even process the change of address forms.

    Example: Someone in Africa happened to duplicate one of my C/C numbers and used it to make a purchase in the US under some name with an African address. The vendor never asked for the verification info on the card, such as name, CSV code, or expiration date. The C/C company promptly removed the charge from my account and withdrew the funds from the vendor, who was then out of luck! My discussion with the vendor confirmed all of the above.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    80?! Wow! I'd like to know what that 80% adds up to in scam tax returns and dollars. .
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  • Posted by GaryL 10 years, 1 month ago
    I always wonder if any of these Pay as you go ID theft protection deals can actually protect you or even get things cleaned up when your ID is hacked? Just last year my credit card company notified me three times and changed my card numbers because of fraudulent activity. It is a real PITA but at least they are watching out for this stuff.
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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 1 month ago
    1) How did they get your SS Number in the first place.
    2) How did they get your previous years 1040 filing?

    They did not get that info from the IRS, they simply used what they got elsewhere and used it.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps after this is all over I should burn my SSN card, kind of like women burned their bras during the 60's.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I have read about this before. and that it can be a nightmare to fix. I hope it will not be for you. The culprits try it based on numbers. They say (anonymously of course) tht they can get about 80% of the applications they file through and make handsome livings doing it. Alot of the people doing it are russian mafia.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I can get a new SSN, but I have to go through the hassle of doing so, including notifying all of the financial institutions and employers who report income on my behalf.

    Regarding the applicability of the IRS's response to Ayotte's inquiry to my case, at least what you suggested would have been some assurance of normalcy.

    Yes, it does irk the hell out of me. I wasted three hours last night.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 1 month ago
    Since the IRS's response to Ayotte indicated that they would redact the information on what they sent to the victim taxpayer, I'm not sure how it would have been of help, except in the instance that it might have provided documentation if another ID theft occurrence cape up.

    But damn, doesn't it irk the hell out of you. Does SSA issue you a new SSN once its been determined stolen?
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The IRS sent me a letter that I received yesterday asking me to confirm my identity. When I contacted them and gave them the necessary information, the agent told me that someone else had also filed an attempted refund request using my SSN. He also told me that he could not supply any further information other than the length of time that the investigation would take.

    I guess I didn't renounce my citizenship fast enough.
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