Yep. Out here on the left coast there were plenty of bbq backyard conversations about gay marriage. I often would just utter, "The problem is that you need to go to the government to get a license to get married. Don't like how things are? Don't take it up with me. Take it up with the government." People never really know how to respond other than an introspective, "wow..."
Then, the local media published names and addresses of citizens who contributed money to fight the right to gay marriage. To me, that seemed pretty Nazi. Scary, really.
LGBT ACTIVISTS are the minority who is tyrannical. You are aware that gays are Objectivist and Conservative and Libertarian, right? Activists squawk loudly and agitate. They also trample property rights. The gender label is like a Christian or an atheist label-doesn't tell your politics or ethics. just does not.
Oh, that was a miscommunication. The tyrannical minority I was referencing in this is the LGBT community (approximately 2% of population) forcing its agenda on the rest of the country.
It's indeed using the full force of the government to do so, but they (LGBT) are setting agenda.
You're absolutely right about government intrusion into GDP, which is why we see such anemic economic growth.
I agree with everything you say except you are forgetting the govt in this. Is it a minority. Govt makes up 35% of GDP. Probably higher-they lie. They also have tripled code, law, and regulations in the last 15 years. Who is the tyrannical?
I agree that the religious freedom aspect of this issue misses the mark. Frankly, government should have no place in marriage to begin with. Neither a gay nor straight couple should be required to get a license from the government to get married.
The central issue is property rights. As a business owner I should be able to refuse to serve ANY person for ANY reason. The free-market will win in the end. If refusing service costs me business, I must be able to absorb it or change my position.
I'm preternaturally opposed to the government allowing a tiny fraction of a minority (no matter the minority) to shred property rights. Do I own my business/property, or do I simply manage it for the government?
I don't think it is fair to say that the entire gay population is responsible for the actions of gay activists intent on disruption and yes, of the violation of property rights and suppression of freedom of speech. Unfortunately, we fight back by yelling about religious freedom instead of focusing on the property rights and freedom of speech. You get more people to back you up then. Since no one starts from fundamentals, we get a hodgepodge of meaningless laws and rulings based on whoever is in power or influential. For example, why should I want to acknowledge exemption from the law based on religious beliefs over someone who wants exemption from the law for their philosophical beliefs? Exemptions just promote groups fighting against groups. In the case of the bakers not wanting to perform for potential customers that is their right, religious or otherwise based on property rights and the right to freedom of association (which follows directly from a proper understanding of property rights). It should be all of us-not just those who are religious or special identified group. So, you are seeing the natural outcome of such thinking. Groups pitted against groups and murky court decisions and ultimately AVA will win-because as the one judge said, "state's rights trumps all rights." how chilling that is
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Then, the local media published names and addresses of citizens who contributed money to fight the right to gay marriage. To me, that seemed pretty Nazi. Scary, really.
It's indeed using the full force of the government to do so, but they (LGBT) are setting agenda.
You're absolutely right about government intrusion into GDP, which is why we see such anemic economic growth.
The central issue is property rights. As a business owner I should be able to refuse to serve ANY person for ANY reason. The free-market will win in the end. If refusing service costs me business, I must be able to absorb it or change my position.
I'm preternaturally opposed to the government allowing a tiny fraction of a minority (no matter the minority) to shred property rights. Do I own my business/property, or do I simply manage it for the government?
The tyranny of the minority must be stopped.
Since no one starts from fundamentals, we get a hodgepodge of meaningless laws and rulings based on whoever is in power or influential. For example, why should I want to acknowledge exemption from the law based on religious beliefs over someone who wants exemption from the law for their philosophical beliefs? Exemptions just promote groups fighting against groups. In the case of the bakers not wanting to perform for potential customers that is their right, religious or otherwise based on property rights and the right to freedom of association (which follows directly from a proper understanding of property rights). It should be all of us-not just those who are religious or special identified group. So, you are seeing the natural outcome of such thinking. Groups pitted against groups and murky court decisions and ultimately AVA will win-because as the one judge said, "state's rights trumps all rights." how chilling that is