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"Going Galt" spread wider.....

Posted by $ winterwind 6 years, 3 months ago to Entertainment
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Michael D. Brown, a talk-show host in Denver [AM630], just quoted a statistic that said "52% of Democrats said a socialist in the White House would be OK."
His response to that was "Maybe it's time to Go Galt. And if you don't know what that means, Google it."
HUZZAH!


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  • Posted by XenokRoy 6 years, 3 months ago
    We have, and have had a socialist of some variety in the white house for 100 years, with perhaps two exceptions. In both of those cases the socialist camp in congress was strong enough to greatly slow or stop what those two presidents wanted to do.

    "The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time" - Rand

    Perhaps one of the most truthful statements ever uttered. We have a cultural battle to fight to help others around each of us understand it so that the 52% becomes a 0%.
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  • Posted by $ Temlakos 6 years, 3 months ago
    The more reason to start looking for a place to "go Galt" to.
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    • Posted by Ranter 6 years, 3 months ago
      The Chinese are building their own islands in the South China Sea. Perhaps we should find a place in international waters that is shallow enough for island building, and declare the Atlas Republic. Of course, we would use the Rand as our currency.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 3 months ago
    I was thinking the other day WHY socialism is so attractive emotionally to people that they gravitate to it, in spite of it obviously NOT working anywhere its been tried. We humans are animals, not unlike the lions and tigers and wildebeasts that roam in Africa. They just hunt, chase, and kill whatever they internally feel they need to in order to survive. Its dog eat dog, survival of the fittest, and all that. Humans have the ABILITY to think and basically make deals with each other, team up, and survive BETTER than if they acted like the beasts in the African plains. I think the desire to avoid the harsh realities of independent survival leads people to socialism and a feeling that if "we all take care of each other" it will be better. But in practical terms, its an attempt to escape the reality of human nature.

    Its not obvious, and requires some thought, to come to the conclusion that the only practical way to make life better in groups is to acknowledge and respect some basic rights of each individual. Our founding fathers had it mostly right, but I dont think it was grounded very well. Too much religion and escaping from the specifics of life in England.

    Anyway, I am coming to the conclusion that fighting socialism needs to be brought down to the level most people are at- and to show continually how the details of it isnt working anywhere right NOW. We should be making a TV series about Venezuela and how socialism hurt people instead of helping them.
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    • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 6 years, 3 months ago
      Childhood, for most people, is essentially a socialist world. You don't have to earn your food, clothing or shelter.

      Then you go to school. The educational system is highly socialist. Teachers generally get paid based on their level of education and, short of doing something really dreadful, what they do has no effect on their compensation.

      With the long educational path and access to educational loans -- one can make it to the mid twenties without ever having to face reality.

      After 25 years of someone taking care of you, it seems natural.
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 3 months ago
        I agree with you on that. When I was 17 and in high school, my dad asked me "son, have you thought of where you are going to live when you get out of school?" Best thing he ever said to me. I had NOT thought of that. Went on to MIT and made a life for myself after that. This stuff about staying at home at 26 years old is not a good idea. Send them out earlier so they learn how to make it on their own.
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      • Posted by teri-amborn 6 years, 3 months ago
        I agree. Socialism is a slacker's paradise and appeals to folks who resist growing up.

        So, the way to fight socialism is to make "growing up" either so attractive and full of rewards that everyone seeks to be responsible for him/herself or mandate it and at a certain age, cut folks off the proverbial "tit".
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    • Posted by $ jlc 6 years, 3 months ago
      I think that you, term2, and Wm both have important insights into the 'why' of the magnetic attraction to socialism. I will add my tidbit of observation in that the depth of affluence in the US is deep enough that cause-and-effect are obscured. 'Of course' socialism works here - we are engaged in it and everyone is still rich. No, actually, it just takes a long time to use up all the gain that capitalism has made and show that socialism is economically dysfunctional.

      Jan, finds socialism to be repugnant too
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      • Posted by term2 6 years, 3 months ago
        It just seems like an uphill battle for people to realize that the practical side of socialism is bankrupt. Its just NOT a workable system in practice.
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  • Posted by $ Flootus5 6 years, 3 months ago
    The guy that sells the Palm Beach Report from Florida that touts the "Invisible Account" that thousands of prominent people have used to "disappear " from view of the government including dozens of presidents, etc, is using the "going Galt" theme. The "Invisible Account" used to be called the 777 Account until it got exposed as a scam.

    But he is pulling in people by portraying it as thousands of prominent people "going Galt".
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 3 months ago
    HBO is not a socialist.
    He's a fascist.
    He lets you think you own something, but the rules he makes controls what you can do with what you "own." Far more insidious than mere socialism.
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  • Posted by $ ObjectiveAnalyst 6 years, 3 months ago
    Silly Marxists. Marx and Engels believed that the transition from feudalism to capitalism to socialism and ultimately communism depended upon the wealth and capital first created by capitalism. The serious fallacy overlooked by them was that the capital would ultimately be used up and everything would collapse. Margaret Thatcher — 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.' This is the blind spot of many of today's Democrats. If only enough of us could go Galt and let them suffer the consequences without harming our own well being...
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 3 months ago
    I love this trend. The only thing I worry about is the progressives asserting that the all Ayn Rand supporters just want to take their superior economic position, leverage the value offered by the US (of course in their minds and words, offered by the sacrifice of the proletariat) and hide out in luxury.

    Many of us, including me, would say this is just fine if it is the only way to demonstrate the futility of socialism. However, I am not there yet.

    Hopefully, "Going Gulch" can not be used to paint us as simply opportunistic and lazy. If this becomes a real term, we need to make sure it describes hard work, capability, perseverance and Objectivism.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 3 months ago
    I wonder if anyone has ever considered charting a specific course of correcting social and economic problems through relief from legislation. I mean micro-economics, not macro economics. Such a course would be interesting to consider.
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  • Posted by Wonky 6 years, 3 months ago
    I doubt that a substantial percentage of that 52% even know what socialism (as a political agenda) means. Fumbling around with the word to define it, it might well be first contrasted against individualism. In that light, socialism may well just mean something like friendly, generous, helpful, or part-of-the-team to these people. That kind of mass ignorance is even more frightening to ponder than the idea that they know what it means and actually want it. It's not as though the public schools and the media do a good job of informing them.

    Just think of how long it takes the average person to embrace "selfishness" as a virtue when they were not exposed to the idea in childhood. When all context is missing, how can anyone adequately judge the meaning of a word?
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  • Posted by Jer 6 years, 3 months ago
    I think 52% of registered Democrats is about 15% or so of those eligible to vote. That may not be sufficient reason to Go Galt, but then occupancy of the oval office is probably not the criteria for making that call.
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