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Is Obama using Reagans Russian Strategy against us?

Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 2 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I was discussing politics with a liberal friend of mine over the weekend. We talked about Reagan and he said he agreed with the defense build up in the 80's and that the Russians inability to keep up is what caused their collapse. The Russian economy simply could not spend as much as we could. The only issue he had with it was the deficits we were left with. It started me thinking that President Obama may be using that strategy against us. He takes over when the economy is struggling and uses it as an excuse to spend at an unprecedented pace. He has taken the deficit from 9 trillion to 18+ trillion in six years. Some economists are now concerned about the long term health of our economy. Is it possible Obama is turning the Russian Strategy against us???


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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Based on your comment, I almost didn't watch. But I did.

    OMG, not only is he wrong, wrong, wrong, but the condescension...but, nothing new about that...

    The Horror! The Horror!

    (I can finally answer that essay question from high school...)....
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is somewhat consistent with Keynes but I see as just dangerous. The biggest problem, as you point out, is that little or nothing has been gained. We have just dumped money into failed programs.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the correction on open mic night.

    And yeah, I remember the MSM oohing and ahing over Obama's clear superior intellect and skill in foreign policy over the knuckle-dragging warmonger Romney.

    I also remember seeing a lot of videos clips recently where a lot of things Romney predicted would happen in the debates, particularly in the Middle East, well, happened.

    But let's not confuse important issues by referencing actual facts...
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 2 months ago
    I see your point, and can't disagree. The deficits certainly are not being used to build up defense and defeat anybody. (True we lob a few drones here and there, give some marginal help in the Middle East, but this is no Star Wars spending). For the most part the spending is being totally wasted in failed domestic programs, like "jobs programs" that somehow fail to produce any jobs, increased welfare, and who knows what percentage going to corruption and cronies (e.g. "green" energy magnates, Solyndra), etc. etc. And they are indeed destroying our economy.

    If you couple this with his Anti-Industrial regulatory policies. e.g., his very personal "War on Coal", his one-man refusal to approve the XL pipeline after his own State Department studies have shown it to be "safe" several times, and both Houses of Congress, in a bi-partisan vote, have also approved it, and I'm sure many more to list, I have to conclude that his was and is serious in his attempt to "fundamentally change America", in particular whatever is left of its Capitalist economy.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Open mic night was just one of many such statements, and that one was to Dmitry Medvedev, Putin's then puppet. Obama said something derisive about the Cold War being over very recently (in the last month), but everyone remembers his comments during the debate with Romney that allegedly won him the election.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What was that on "open mic night" The One said to Putin (I'm paraphrasing) pre-2012: "Don't worry, once I'm re-elected, I'll be in a better position to take care of you..."...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The scenario you describe is what I was calling the "inevitable mini-crisis".
    It should be easy to eliminate the deficit. If they simply froze nominal spending at current levels the problem would go away. I am disappointed they only make token efforts.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Provided our economy can survive. I have read a few times that the Fed has to be cautious when it comes to raising interest rates. Easy money has helped the stock market and given the illusion of a robust economy. Rising interest rates will have an adverse effect on the economy and eventually make even the interest payments on the debt rise to a point where we can't make the payments. I see no strategy in Washington to even slow down the increase in debt.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 2 months ago
    My suspicion is the "strategy" of borrowing (in the 80s and now) is more rationalization than strategy. It's easy to spend now at the price of slightly higher costs of debt servicing years from now. This is why many families and individuals are in bad financial shape and ignore it until some mini-crisis hits. The gov't is representing the people in this and taking the same approach. We'll find the political will to stop the borrowing once the inevitable mini-crisis happens.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Makes me wonder who won the cold war. I just can't understand how any one would think deficits at this level are sustainable.
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    Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 2 months ago
    Does that make Obama the Moscow Candidate or the Manchurian Candidate?
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