Obama says NCAA should require schools to give guaranteed scholarships

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 1 month ago to Government
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The Obamanationcontinues to dictate. Now he pushes free tickets for college. All you have to do is dupe them into offering it to you, then ooppsss... you can't play anymore...but still get the goodies. Maybe he should try one thing right, instead of 20 things wrong.....loser... He loves to tell everyone else why they need to give away their stuff, or owe it to someone, or just plain ought to do this or that. Ack....
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 1 month ago
    Nickursis, I think that you're looking at Obama from an incorrect perspective, along with many others. For those that claim that Obama has done this or that wrong, they are incorrect. Obama is doing everything right, from his perspective. It just happens to be that his perspective is a willful destruction of America. The question is not a small correction here or there, or a misunderstanding. In the words of the devil himself - let me be clear - the goal is to do as much damage as possible. Look at his actions - can anyone name a single action of his that did not destroy some part of America? Osama should be very proud.
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    • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 1 month ago
      If he were smart enough to have done everything he tried to do, the lights would already be out.
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      • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 1 month ago
        Smart enough to fool a 100 million people. Or, wait, he fooled a hundred million fools... So, may be you're right.
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        • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 1 month ago
          I've noticed that when you bring up Obama's failures the people that voted for him get all angry and blue in the face. As I run before I get stoned I love the sound of my voice. Then I think what good have I done in pointing out his lies and failures.
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          • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 1 month ago
            That's because his lies and failures are really their lies and failures. The 100 million parasites wanted to believe what they wanted to believe. Osama, in fact, was quite truthful about his intentions, but he threw in enough fish hooks that the "give me" crowd went wild for the promised land of pilferage. When you mention that to them, they turn blue because somewhere in their tiny brains, probably in the spinal cord, they realize that more has been stolen from them than they managed to steal themselves.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 1 month ago
    Here ya go. Obama and the A-Typical Liberal, STUPID, Moronic statement TELLING others how they should spend their money.

    HEY OBLABBERMOUTH, how about instead of buying that 9 million dollar estate in Hawaii, where Magnum P.I. was filmed you GIVE that money to your "Socio-Econmically-Disadvantaged-Inner-Citty-Youths." A.K.A. Poor Black Kids, and STOP telling others how to spend THE HARD EARNED product of their labor.
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
    Hell, why charge anyone for anything? I'm sure that the liberals in academia would support that. I'm equally sure that they'd agree to work gratis to make the scheme feasible.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 1 month ago
    I think they should find some derelict from an alley somewhere behind a bar in Chicago, clean him up, dress him up real nice, give him a degree in brain surgery, and then let him operate on the presidents brain to find out what makes him tick. But that is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 1 month ago
    I take a different view, I think the NCAA needs to go away entirely, they rip off the kids completely- look at EA Sports, NCAA rakes it in on the kids' likenesses and personality in video games (forever) and doesn't give them a penny of it, even after they graduate.

    Scholarship, big deal, if you can fog a mirror you can get a student loan, and if you don't want to, there is the armed forces... The advertisers have always wanted to go straight to the athletes and not deal with the NCAA, let them and they can pay their own tuition and take the corruption out of the multi-million dollar coach endorsements and 8-figure university salaries at the same time and the kid could even get their own health coverage.
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    • Posted by sumitch 9 years, 1 month ago
      I tend to agree. All that free scholarships do is force the colleges to dumb down like has happened with our other schools. It does however give those that won’t or can’t cut it a few more years of free rides. I made it through two undergraduate degrees and one masters and did it while working full time. What is it that keeps others from doing the same?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 1 month ago
    For some reason after reading everything here, a vision of an Obama bobble head swam into my imagination. I wondered if I could find something like I had envisioned on YouTube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOWG1cxl...

    Some silly person with a beard follows. Feel free to ignore that. I did.
    Hey, that changed after I pasted. Now Obama is the Biblical Beast.
    I watched it a third time. It's a different video about Barack being the Antichrist.
    Oh, well, see what you get after the bobble . . .
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
    With regard to athletic scholarships, most people, especially students, don't realize that students are getting a one year, potentially renewable, scholarship every year. There are stipulations regarding behavior, academic performance, and athletic performance in the agreement.

    It is suprisingly common for new coaches to not renew scholarships for athletes for athletic performance reasons. I can understand this except in the case where a student gets injured in their sport. Florida Tech had a very modest athletic program until about 7 or 8 years ago. We now have a lot of students who were high school athletes and at the top of their academic class, but weren't good enough athletically to get Division I athletic scholarships. They have been student-athletes, as opposed to athlete-students, and it has worked out well, even for those who get injured. Several of my students have been injured in athletic competition in recent years, most notably a rash of ACL injuries.

    This is a rare point where I will agree with Obama on anything, but only in the case where the student-athlete gets injured in his/her sport. Certainly I disagree with him in general on this topic.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 1 month ago
      I think they should get the rest of that year on scholarship, but after that they are on their own. Let me ask a question: If someone has a scholarship based on their outstanding mathematical abilities, and they get in a car accident and those abilities go away - do they keep the math scholarship?

      Jan
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    • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
      Good points.

      I've always been somewhat against athletic scholarships as they stand. They're potentially taking a seat from someone in a classroom who'd actually do something with math, sciences, humanities, etc. the solution of course is both simple and obvious. Create a new degree--Bachelor of Athletics--with a minor in baseball, basketball, football, whatever. That way they'd have a degree in their chosen field. However, the degree would garner all of the respect due a potholder in any field beyond athletics.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
        The athletes are trading value for value - their ability, time, and performance in exchange for the university's increased name recognition, enhanced sponsorships, and the students' educations. With the exception of perhaps top NFL or NBA draft picks, it is a pretty even exchange.
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        • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
          Take my word for it...I understand the recognition factor. I'm a Southerner; college Football is in our blood. (GO GATORS!). That said, the recognition of which you speak is available without the athletic scholarships. Wouldn't you rather your alma mater be rocognized for producing the finest engineers or doctors or poly scis on the planet?
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
            I would like us to be known as the finest engineers on the planet, but that does take money. It is hard to compete with the Florida Gators when they are both looters and moochers from the State of Florida, and I have to subsidize my competition. I have no problems with individual Gator students, faculty, or alumni. However, I have had to write numerous recommendation letters for INTERNATIONAL students to transfer to UF because it costs less than Florida Tech. FIT is not expensive by private standards, but I would not teach at a state institution for Galtish reasons.
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            • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
              Respectfully, I think your premise is mistaken.

              It doesn't take money to gain a reputation for producing the world's finest engineers; it takes the ability to produce the world's finest engineers, and no amount of football (or baseball or basketball) scholarships will alter that fact.
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              • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
                No, my premise is not mistaken, and I respect you as well, SaltyDog.

                Indeed it does take ability to produce the world's finest engineers, and we do our best. I can take someone who could compete at a top ten school and prepare that person into the next John Galt. In fact, I have one such protege. More often, I take those who are talented enough, but not the world's elite, and mold them into engineers who can compete against the world's best at the undergraduate level.

                However, without the equipment base in place, you will not attract the world's best talent at the graduate level. That is part of the reason I have advertised in the Marketplace.

                We get some of the world's best talent, and quite a bit of talent from the progeny of those who are the world's wealthiest. When your competition is not only subsidized, but you are forced to subsidize it, you cannot be the world's best. It takes money and infrastructure to attract the world's best graduate students. We have some infrastructure, but not nearly the vast research infrastructure that most of the State Science Institutes do.

                My university did make it into the world's top 200 and is the youngest to make it there. Academically, my university is much like one of the Cinderella college basketball teams that pulls off a major upset once in a while, and yes, we can compete at that level. Without the endowment of an Ivy League school or the state support like The University of Florida, getting into the top 200 in the world (according to The London Times) in less than 60 years is unprecedented.

                Finally, and most importantly for me, I am putting a handicap on myself. I am not going after State Science Institute money any more. That is a contradiction that I morally cannot tolerate. Those who have no such moral quandary about taking looted money are thus at an advantage over me.
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                • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
                  Yours is certainly a fine institution, but this all wide of the point I made. I said that I opposed athletic scholarships from the perspective that the recipients were taking seats away from students in other disciplines, and that if one were there for, say, playing baseball, his degree should reflect that. You seemed to indicate that you thought the system is fair as it is. Or have I misunderstood you?
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                  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
                    In the case of my private university, it is our right to determine if giving student-athletes a scholarship is in our best interest without having to take such money from the taxpayers. The student-athletes we are giving scholarships to are, by and large, better than the average student. They have to be better students to compensate for the extra time that their athletic commitment (part of their value) will require of them. We, as a university, our getting value from them as well, and I think it is about an even trade overall.

                    In the case of a state university, that trade involves a third participant - the taxpayer - whose only return on investment is the vicarious enjoyment of their football or basketball teams. In most cases, the taxpayers do not get value for value, and they certainly have no say in the matter as their "contribution" is taken by force. In my case, in particular, this "contribution" is especially egregious because it improves my competition at my expense. Having to do so is like unwilling participation in the Steel Unification Act or the Railroad Unification Act.

                    By the way, Florida taxpayers pay the 6th highest percentage of moocher college students' tuition (read state schools) of the 50 states. Until Rick Scott became governor (someone I detest despite his alleged conservatism because he and his cronies started a state university with virtually the same name as ours - Florida Polytechnic Institute), Florida taxpayers had the 2nd highest such percentage to pay.
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                    • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 1 month ago
                      Again, yours is a fine institution, and as a private school it can do as it pleases. (To take it a step further, Bob Jones University, another fine school, refused to become accredited as the founders did not wish to be in a position where the state could on a whim dictate what was necessary to graduate. As a result, 529 Plan money cannot be used for education there without paying an IRS penalty.) but again, we're steering wide of my point. That's all I'm saying.

                      I'll leave you the last word.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
            When Florida Tech started a football program a few years ago, a lot of faculty and several administrators below our president thought it would be a joke. I honestly wasn't sure how it would work out. After winning our first game of our first season and then going 6-5 in our second season, it really has been a morale booster for the university. The first group of football seniors is about to graduate. Two of them are taking their 2nd class from me this term, and they are among the best in the class. Unfortunately one of them tore his Achilles during junior year, but he did well in the classroom and on the field this year.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 1 month ago
          Many folks do not understand that part of it. Getting your college's name in the papers (on a positive note) is worth millions of dollars. Additionally, there have been studies that show that even people who are very prejudiced against blacks used 'we' and 'our' in speaking of a black player on their alma mater's team. Sports cuts across prejudice lines, it appears. (I think that military service does so to, but that is a different topic.)

          Jan
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 1 month ago
        Regarding the Bachelor of Athletics degree, 90% of the athletes would still be getting a degree in something other than athletics.

        The vast majority of athletes are not taking places from otherwise qualified students because most of such students are in sports than consume revenue rather than generate it.

        I am not opposed to such a Bachelor of Athletics. It is usually called a B.A. or B.S. in Physical Education.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years, 1 month ago
    Most everything he says or does is stupid, but this one makes sense. Too many student athletes bust hump to get scholarships, Then they go out there and bust ass to make and stay on the team, then the team puts this 19 or 20 something, regardless of gender, at risk, they blow out a knee and the University tells them sorry bout that shit. All the while making millions off the NCAA & TV, but only the coaches, and the commie professors get any of it! That's just BS!~
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  • Posted by mandualena 9 years, 1 month ago
    I heard on Fox News this morning that Obama wants it required that everyone vote. If we don't he would probably impose a fee. I also heard he wants every preschooler to be weighed. Never heard the reason. Did any one of you?
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