Gluten Free?

Posted by Wonky 10 years, 4 months ago to Science
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Yes, this is relevant!

I'm reading "Grain Brain: The Surprising Truth about Wheat, Carbs, and Sugar--Your Brain's Silent Killers" by David Perlmutter. I don't really care to dive into big pharma, food industry, FDA, or government conspiracy here - I'm just interested in the science and how it pertains to brain function (naturally, my own, and people I care about).

Has anyone here tried a gluten free, low carb diet and noticed significant differences in mental acuity, stress, and/or any chronic illness?

I'm starting such a diet this week, and I'll report on my experience if there's interest.


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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 4 months ago
    I lost a ton of weight going to the Atkin's low carb plan...didn't buy the meals, but learned to read the info on the cans in the grocery store aisles.

    Was I "smarter"? Maybe not...since I had to restock my closet.
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  • Posted by Joyz2012 10 years, 4 months ago
    If you have any thyroid issues at all, wheat gluten - glue - bogs down your glandular functions.

    Harder than ever to be gluten free unless you eat MEAT and POTATOES - which, believe it or not, is what my family always said was their staple diet on the farm.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
      Funny how that works... generations upon generations figure out what to eat and not to eat, then we decide that sketchy scientific data should be the basis of a whole new diet.

      Turns out that cholesterol is vital to brain function and the cell membranes of every cell in your body - we need it in abundance, and every cell in your body can actually manufacture its own supply. The true danger seems to come from the oxidation of LDL and HDL (cholesterol containers) which can be prevented by MORE fat consumption and antioxidants.

      Low fat, high carb diets appear to be the real cause behind the surge in diabetes and chronic health issues. Don't tell the drug companies. (Ack, I said I wouldn't go there)
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      • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years, 4 months ago
        Hahaha. Your post reminds me a thought that always stays with me. No matter how intelligent we think we are, we are the stupidest animal on the planet because we don’t even what we are suppose to eat!
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 4 months ago
    lab rat! Go!
    Have a good friend who suffered from lots of muscle and joint pain, IBS. 6 Months on gluten free and years of chronic pains went away. was not overnight. If her mental acuity sharpened after the new diet, I do not think she would have said...because there were all those arguments she had with us BEFORE the diet changes she still would have claimed superior mental acuity. what can you do? (Gallic shrug)
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  • Posted by janetc 10 years, 4 months ago
    I am gluten free and can tell when I break it. As good as I feel when I am gluten free I have to tell myself everytime "how can you ever forget that it is not worth it?"
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    • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
      I'm half-way though my first week. Morning brain fog (that I used to attribute to mild pet allergies, leaving a door or window open on a cold moist night, or alcohol without enough water) seems to be gone. I'm having a hard time getting to sleep - maybe I need to add a bit more physical exercise in the evening.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years, 4 months ago
    I love to make sweet potato pie for Thanksgiving. I put on quite a bit of weight between Thanksgiving and Christmas a couple years ago by trying to perfect the recipe.. Lol. I tried a gluten-free diet afterwards. I lost the twenty pounds in two months. The increase levels of energy were felt before the end of the first week. It did seem to clear up brain-fog, except, afterwards, I did notice the first time I allowed myself bread after going gluten-free I got a giddy high as my brain was flooded with feel good chemicals. From my own experience, going gluten-free is a great way to lose weight, and get the body and brain balanced, but it’s not something you should do long-term unless you suffer from celiac disease because you could be robbing your body (and your brain) of B vitamins. I once worked a drug-free bodybuilding competition I can tell you first-hand the diets those guys and gals had trained on may create outstanding muscular bodies, but by the time the competitions roll around, it was obvious their brains were suffering. They were all highly irritable beyond the normal stress of competing. (Maybe there’s a reason for the dumb jock stereo-type?) I also like going on a raw diet every once and awhile too. Your body begins to metabolize the food so fast that you can actually feel certain chemicals doing certain things. It’s a very cool experience if you are observant and committed to eating very small portions every few hours.
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  • Posted by $ root1657 10 years, 4 months ago
    Initially when I 'tried low carb' I half assed it, and still got encouraging results. All I did was cut bread pasta and rice. It made a huge difference! As I get better and better about low carb, and have learned to embrace healthy fats, it's getting better and better. I'm down 20 pounds in 6 months with no change in physical activity, and I can have all the bacon I want! :)

    Recommend the podcasts by Jimmy Moore (ask the low carb experts), as well as the documentary 'Fathead' (available on netflix streaming when I saw it)
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  • Posted by salta 10 years, 4 months ago
    You suggested conspiracy theory. For gluten I think its actually the opposite, it is a result of free market choice.
    Consumers want low price food, and wheat is the cheapest starch source. But wheat gluten has big advantages for baked foods, it adds moist texture, which again the consumer wants.
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  • Posted by salta 10 years, 4 months ago
    I dropped gluten about 7 years ago, after 40 years of living unaware of mild gluten intolerance. I had been living with mild IBS, and only after I gave it up realized how digestion was supposed to work!!
    Its worth the small effort, but don't waste money on special "gluten free" substitutes. Just build habits of naturally GF food like potatoes or rice.
    In the first month, be very strict. If you accidentally eat gluten you have to start the day-count again. If you have an intolerance, you will notice the improvement not before about 3 weeks. Thats how long the intestine lining needs to repair.
    Good luck!
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  • Posted by CTYankee 10 years, 4 months ago
    Groan! H.sapiens are omnivores -- we can eat almost anything! If gluten makes *YOU* feel queasy then stop eating it, but stop trying to get the rest of the population to stop eating gluten.

    Other people's results from dietary changes are their results. They may not be your results; they may not even be close...

    Some folks do well on that screwy all meat diet... I worked with a guy who tried it. I never say a man eat so much wonderful meat and look so utterly malnourished! There is little I love more than a 32oz dry-aged Porterhouse, but I've gotta have potatoes & bread to go with it!

    My advice to anyone trying to gain control of their 'diet' -- KNOCK OFF the DIET SODA -- No one, not one single person *NEEDS* artificially sweetened beverages, foods, snacks, etc... STOP RATIONALIZING. If you're thirsty drink WATER -- good'old dihydrogen monoxide ;)

    Folks that want to change their brain by changing their diet have it all bass-ackwards; change your mind and you will alter your physiology! Eat healthy, eat luxuriously, eat sparingly, eat when you are hungry. Try not to eat when you are *BORED*, if you want to skip a meal then skip it, but don't skip a meal to earn praise; it's an empty reward.

    Fix your diet in the *SUPERMARKET* -- don't buy what you don't need, don't but what you know will cause you to over-indulge (that's also the best way to quit smoking -- don't buy tobacco, you won't smoke what you don't have).
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  • Posted by $ jsambdman 10 years, 4 months ago
    As a practitioner of clinical nutrition, you are right to avoid gluten. And we don't really need that many carbs and we have no nutritional needs for sugar. In addition to avoiding these things, it is necessary to supplement with the 91 essential nutrients - 60 minerals, 16 Vitamins, 12 amino acids and 3 essential fatty acids. unless you are supplementing, it is impossible to get your daily nutritional needs in food alone. So avoiding the bad stuff is half the battle and a good start. You will notice great improvement once you get hooked up with a great line of supplements which I will happily provide you - sambdman.my90forlife.com
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 4 months ago
    Wonky -
    The first time I tried to go low carb (which unfortunately includes both potatoes and rice), I hit a wall and bounced: I was unable to rid myself of morning-mind-fog. So I modified my diet and had simple carbs for breakfast, but not otherwise. Then - a couple of years later - I tried again...and this time, I did not hit the wall; there was no problem with giving up my morning simple carbs. (Evidently, my body had acclimated.) This stopped my weight gain (~1-2 lb/yr), but I did not loose any weight.
    Then I read Wheat Belly and (in spite of several logical flaws in the book) decided to try it as an experiment. I removed all gluten from my diet. I began loosing weight at the rate of about a pound a week* for a while and my occasional digestive problems went away. I am now on the Tim Ferris version of the low-carb diet (which cycles back onto carbs/gluten once a week) and I have started loosing weight again.
    As long as I follow the 'do no harm' principle, I am in favor of experimenting with mine own body, and I regard this as a successful experiment.

    Jan
    *Interestingly enough this was halted by a sting or bite on my arm (arm was pretty swollen) - did not loose any more weight after that happened.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
      Thanks for your insights.

      The sting sounds odd... did you get checked for Lyme Disease after that?
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      • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 4 months ago
        Not a source of concern. Lyme disease is spread by certain species of ticks (which must be attached for >36 hours before they transmit the spirochete); this was either a sting by a very small species of bee or a bite from a spider that dropped from the roof onto my arm. I saw it peripherally, and smashed it/scrapped it off with a casual swipe. By the time I was in my house, I felt a tingling along my jawline. I have experienced a similar sensation in other toxic encounters (and so am alert to it) and headed straight for the benedryl. Next four days was spent with cylindrical left forearm, ice packs and anti-histamines...but my weight lost stopped as if it had run into a boulder. I cannot find any parallel stories to mine re the cessation of weight loss, but would be interested in hearing any.
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  • Posted by readsall 10 years, 4 months ago
    You mentioned that you use Splenda. I was using it regular about two years ago. At the time I was noticing a number of physical problems developing but didn't contribute them to the Splenda use. Then in June 2012 I was hospitalized with a suspected stroke. Long story short, two months passed with no Splenda use. All the issues that had been developing earlier in the year were gone. I've cut out artificial sweeteners except for the occasional product that already has the artificial sweetener included. None of the problems have reoccurred. Just felt I should warn you.
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  • Posted by lmarrott 10 years, 4 months ago
    When my daughter was about 2 she was diagnosed "failure to thrive" and we had to go up to Primary Childrens. We met with a Doctor, Dietician, and a Social Worker at the same time. They started off thinking you are neglecting your children and then go backwards from there.

    Long story short she was diagnosed with Celiac disease and we took our whole family Gluten Free. I have benefitted greatly from this change so I'm sure I have it to. Most of my benefits come in the form of less stomach troubles.

    We are different then lots of people I meet who are Gluten Free in that we aren't concerned with super healthy stuff, just Gluten Free of the same things. But overall we probably eat healthier then we otherwise would.

    Let me know if you have any Gluten Free questions.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
      Glad to hear you're benefitting. My wife is joining me in the switch. She even whipped up some fantastic (and fantastically expensive) gluten free pumpkin bread yesterday. $7 for a pound of gluten free flour (yuck).

      I was looking into decent gluten free beers (it looks like there are some), but my short term solution is switching to wine (Chardonnays mostly). I was wondering about teas this morning. I'm drinking decaf Lipton with Splenda, and assuming it's gluten free (couldn't find any explicit statement on the Lipton website). I drink decaf Earl Grey tea at home.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 4 months ago
        is the "yuck" for the cost or taste? near bread or near beer-neither approach the limits of there bread or there beer.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
          The cost. It tasted awesome warm and with real butter! She's made gluten free pumpkin pie that was awesome too.

          The beer is going to be hard to give up *sigh*.
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          • Posted by salta 10 years, 4 months ago
            For beer, I've found several bottled beers which are very consistent, and seem safe (for me). My criteria is it must have absolutely no hint of sediment (so I avoid dark beers I cannot see through). Reason being that gluten is insoluble, so even if beer was made from barley... no sediment, no gluten.
            And wine is good ;)
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  • Posted by ricrossfireclub 10 years, 4 months ago
    Last year, after a lengthy divorce process, I decided to change the way I was eating and to stop my brain from deteriorating. I went as close to gluten free, sugar free, wheat free and generally a better diet.
    Now, after a year of losing weight and regaining my memory. I feel much better than I have in years. Shedding my 400 pound wife helped as well.
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  • Posted by rgaydos 10 years, 4 months ago
    I agree with the low-carb benefits already discussed. I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and have been following the low glycemic load, not index, since and have reaped multiple benefits besides the lowering of my blood glucose. Keep in mind that gluten free does not mean low carb. Not at all.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 4 months ago
      Glad to hear it!

      I definitely see gluten, carbs, and sugar as three distinct items to avoid as much as possible. The book's title implies that it's mostly about gluten, but the author is a neurologist, so he's going through it all in terms of how the brain reacts to foods/ingredients. The science is just at the edge of my understanding, but not incomprehensible.
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