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Question stemming from my curiosity

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
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Today, where can someone go to simply disappear from everyone and everything. By this I mean pulling a Jeremiah Johnson or Grizzly Adams, stepping out of society completely and living off hunting and farming without TV, radio, running water, etc. A place where a person can never hear another persons voice for years or until death takes him.

Is there anyplace left in the US where someone can live like this?


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  • Posted by jimslag 10 years, 3 months ago
    In the US, the Rockies of Colorado up through Wyoming into Montana is great and has a lot of areas that are vacant of people. The Pacific Northwest is another. There are places in Eastern Washington and Oregon where there are no roads, some places in Northern California also. For out of the country, I like Patagonia in Chile myself, far away and not heavily populated. There are other places but you run into the drug cartels is you are not careful. If not cartels, then lots of bad things in the jungles and rivers. Some places good for lower interactions with people but it is getting harder and harder to find a no interaction place.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 3 months ago
    Nope. They've all been annexed by the Federal Government via the BLM. That's why they're called "national forests".

    If you're looking for a place to build a Gulch, I'd suggest buying a small island off the coast of Costa Rica. Just don't get eaten by the dinosaurs. ;)
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 3 months ago
    AJ,
    the answer is yes if you want to live in the mountains of the north west. a fellow just showed up in town who lived for 30 years he said in the mountains and spoke to all of 2 people in that amount of time. when he returned from vietnam he didn't like what he subjected too so he left. he was not alone to do that.
    i say the northwest because that is where the big foot is and no body has found him/her yet.
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  • Posted by dukem 10 years, 3 months ago
    I have been searching for such a place for years, mostly using Sperling's Best Places as a guide since it lays out most important numbers to consider for a geographical change.
    For me, the closest to what I'm looking for, with a modicum of civilization, is St. George, Utah and environs. Check it out. Some minuses, but lots of pluses.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 3 months ago
    Alaska too challenging for freaking freezing, maybe you can still get lost in order not to be found in the Rockies.
    I'm thinking a better bet may be the Andes in Peru beside Brazil where it ain't so freaking Argentina freezing during the summer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andes
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 3 months ago
    I doubt there is such a place in the US, other than perhaps rural Alaska. Several of us were considering Vanuatu six months ago. I'm glad that we didn't make that decision, given the recent typhoon.
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  • Posted by DanShu 10 years, 4 months ago
    Try Alaska, ever see the show "Alaska the last Frontier?" They are not totally off the grid but pretty close. I also like "Life Below Zero" they are really out there. I'm actually envious watching them. Makes me wish I was still young.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 4 months ago
    I'm sure there is a place in the mountains but don't know where. I've often thought of doing the same thing. Sick of feeding the beast too.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm about 50, I'd rather die struggling to survive than feeding the beast I see developing. Were it not for my kids.......
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 4 months ago
    I suppose there must be, but I'm afraid I'm too old now. I don't think I could even get there any more.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I live in Arizona...well acquainted with Arapio, love the man. Our State government is passing bill after bill to rein in federalism and, so far, they've done a wonderful job. The jury is still out as to whether the State Senate will pass these bills and the Governor will sign them into law.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lived on the sea for a few years, while I love the ocean (oddly enough I live in a desert now) it presents too many challenges simply to survive, namely drinkable water, no ability to grow food, limited hunting.
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  • Posted by MikeGoodman59 10 years, 4 months ago
    Love Jeremiah Johnson ... the movie, not the politics of the lead. Johnson's mistake was following the major and the preacher. *** Answer? Alaska, off grid *** ... BUT ... that would still likely require a community, of sorts. Given that, a "collective" answer is to reinstate Constitutional sanity. Please, read this book and elect a sheriff who can, with the aid of his/her neighboring LEO's, tell the Fed to go to blazes. Then, short of having to "repel borders," the Fed will go home, as in the case of the Bundy ranch. Bundy, from what I gathered, was against protecting a tortoise that is in no way in competition with his cattle, and which the Fed is killing off, ACTIVELY! Bundy wanted to pay taxes to the County, and to have federal lands returned, and overreach stopped. Good book! Short and to the point, by Sheriff Mack who realized he'd become a brown shirt. Forward by Arpaio. Oh, pay attention to Sheriff Clarke, of Milwaukee County, and our own Sam Page of Rockingham County (NC).
    http://www.amazon.com/The-County-Sheriff...
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