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At what point does Atlas shrug???

Posted by AmericanGreatness 10 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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Time to seriously consider becoming an expat...


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recall Pelosi calling the Obama-made border invasion that involved so may kids "an opportunity."
    My statement is about the outcome hoped for by the Marxist progressives.
    Legally, an illegal is an illegal is an illegal.
    I recall a photo of an illegal holding a sign that said he would shoot police if he did not get amnesty.
    Yesterday I read an article that states Obobo wants to throw huge chunks of Social Security amnesty prize money at illegals at the tune of several thousand each.
    Well, I'm retired and need that secondary income. So no thank you, Presidebt Omoocho!
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This sentiment (not the poster personally!) is exceptionally stupid thinking, even for mainstream American politicians. Hispanic-Americans are a natural conservative constituency that both Republicans and libertarian types should be courting. The ONLY reason so many of them vote Democratic is that Republicans want to continue to treat them as criminals. Our present laws limiting immigration are both unjust and futile. Support amnesty and you'll find you have a lot of new friends, and a lot more of them are producers than you probably believe if you get your data from the likes of the Heritage Foundation.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If I were going to start a new country, and places not currently inhabited (seasteading, space, Antarctica) were out, then I'd pick the nastiest Third World dictatorship I could find. Preferably one without the kind of resources that would tempt big countries to butt in.

    Beyond that the strategy depends on how much money you have, but the idea of picking a nasty dictatorship is so that if your attempted coup or revolution backfires, you at least haven't ruined one of the relatively nice countries.

    If I had the kind of money Bill Gates has, I'd simply offer the dictator and his buddies a nice retirement home and pension on a tropical beach somewhere, in exchange for going away. Then I'd make that country the next Hong Kong, so the people become rich as well as free. Then move on to the next nasty dictatorship and do it again!
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Obama administration very much wants to create another staged fight like the so-called Boston Massacre -- so that Obama can use it as his "Reichstag Fire" and promote himself to generalissimo. Don't you read history?
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good idea. (And unlike tying it to paying taxes, this is still legal if a state wants to do it.)
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  • Posted by jnnrd54 10 years, 4 months ago
    Any recommendations from the group for new countries to consider?
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  • Posted by Crushmore 10 years, 4 months ago
    I like to point out to my liberal friends when they complain about corporations hiding their money overseas that perhaps Atlas has Shrugged.
    Funny thing is they don't get it. They were too busy reading ,"The Jungle."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I watched as the Republican wing of the Government Party used that movement to gain local and state offices. The answer is to turn your back on them entirely. they do have enough in that wing and perhaps the Blue Dogs to repudiate and form another party even while in office. But I would have to see something mighty convincing to believe it. Not the business as usual play pretend. But at the local level? Much easier. Can't punch them in the chops then snap at the ankles. Turn your backs on them and give them nothing... no support of any form...at any level.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the follow on. How true. But the phrase has been used to describe things financial as in full faith and credit of the US Government. It still fits but since the US Government is in a cycle of bankruptcies it has no credit and the only faith is in it's printing presses. It seems most are afraid to say the Emperor has no clothes and I can - now I''m in retirement status and worse with only government pensions - certainly understand. No one wants to upset what few apples are left in their twilight years. Gold having some intrinsic value would be a better symbol of credit if it existed in those amounts but it is still something like a a red tie.I don't see the restoration of faith in the economy when the figures are skewed and they don''t add devaluation of the dollar into COLA computations.Just to name one major shortcoming. The Emporer does have some clothes. T Bills for those in that strata have more value than FDIC insurance.
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 4 months ago
    for those of you who think that anything will change in dc with a new pres, your loony. i just read that bohener is passing the amnesty bill as well as everything else the 0 wants.
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  • Posted by Matcha 10 years, 4 months ago
    Escaping is easy. There are ways to shrug while you stay in the US or you can spread your wings and go somewhere else. With FATCA you will need to keep a bank account in the US because it takes a while to get one in a foreign country. You just need to do research. Be a free individual. No need to make a fuss since it doesn't seem to do any good.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 4 months ago
    This all about creating a huge Hispanic horde of grateful and dependent brand new voters to quid pro quo balloon a gargantuan single ruling party.
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  • Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The question is that our whole society and culture has changed so much since property ownership was a requirement. We no longer live in an agrarian society or economy. I think about people like my sister who served in the marines for 10 years and is getting her architecture degree. She has no idea where she is going to end up living so why would she buy property? It's not like she plans on becoming a farmer. But she is productive, pays taxes, and is incredibly intelligent. I'm simply pointing out that doing this would result in either a land grab or a lot of the producers who produce wealth not getting any say in what the government does. Our economy now is based on paper IOU's and nobody will pay me with land so we are all screwed. I guess I could buy some land, but then what is the value of that land based on? More paper IOU's? Somebody hit my reset button I'm stuck in a mental loop.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello MichaelAarethun,
    I'll try to avoid too many question marks. :) Indeed. Section 1: Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
    I have reviewed some of your recent comments.The Constitution is your friend. :)
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing wrong with pedantic - except where they end all sentences with a question mark. Faith and Credit a term from Article Four having nothing to to with finances. Faith is personal belief in the current financial system. Credit is it's credibility. As one example.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But think of the future when your kid asks what did you do in the counter-revolution Daddy or Mommy.
    Nor would you have to hide from a mirror in shame.

    Revolutionary War less than ten percent of the population of the 13 States actively supported that effort. You can do a lot and the first step is turning your back on the Government Party under either one of it's two other names.




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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Banned from day one in the Constitution as it is a poll tax used to deny franchise based on personal wealth. Like any interpretations the three year rule would expand or contract to fit the political need.

    One should not get a welfare check as a tax refund however or be called a home owner when they are a home buyer or be allowed to donate to a political campaign outside their geo-political area of interest nor donate time, materials nor money if they do not have the right to vote. The last of which would wipe out soft money contributions completely.
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  • Posted by Danno 10 years, 4 months ago
    Buy real assets and put some or most outside USA. When the collapse comes, take a plane there because the IRS will be kaput.
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