We WILL find out how it works

Posted by Boborobdos 11 years, 5 months ago to Government
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Vermont decided to take it a step further by setting up their very own single payer system.

The slogan of the program: Everybody in, nobody out.

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let me spell it out for you, since you've decided to be so openly obtuse:

    If you don't believe in God... according to "my religion"... you will go to hell.

    So why would I want to convince *you* that God exists?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You might want to get your history right. The driving force behind abolition was Christians.

    In your eternal quest to preserve your ignorance, did you ever once hear me announce a religious objection to abortion?

    An unborn child has a unique, human genetic pattern. That makes it human. Otherwise we can euthanize the crippled, the different, at will, and it wouldn't be "murder".

    It's called, "science", genius, not religion.

    Murder is mostly illegal in most of America... except in abortion clinics.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I see you seem to have a dose of: Everyone else is wrong if they don't do it my way.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You will succeed at convincing me of nothing Hiraghm. You have twisted and posted so much misinformation (like tossing the word "murder" around incorrectly) that you never convince me of anything except of your own zeal.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Remember Hiraghm, I posted to you the catechism for slaves. Christians supported slavery.

    You might want to get your history straight.

    Ohhhhhhh, and abortion ain't "murder." (except in the context of YOUR religion)

    Abortion is mostly legal in most of America.

    You may want to consult a dictionary before you splash picket sign jabbering around.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll try to watch the whole thing. I would suppose it is true that each man must decide for himself that he wants to seek out the answers.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From that article: "Eight states do include language in their constitutions either requiring state officeholders to have particular religious beliefs or specifically protecting those who do..."

    Such laws no longer stand in defiance of the Supreme Court decisions, but the laws have not been repealed. In point of fact, the first decision was in 1961, but 30 years later the problem still existed. See the article here in the Gulch under Politics.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The significant portion of the quote, for me, is the "each man's soul's his own".

    That's what, for me, distinguishes modern-day Christianity from modern-day Islam or, even worse, Green. Go to hell, if you want (it says). Doesn't affect me.
    Massively different from Obama's "collective salvation" which he got from his Liberation Theology. And derives, or at least accompanies hand in hand, his indoctrination in the vile philosophy of Ubuntu.

    Each man's duty is to his king, in exchange for that which the king provides. At Runnymeade, the barons established that kings not only had authority, but responsibility.

    And Kenneth Branagh's version of Henry V is one of my favorite films. About the only Shakespearean movie he made that I like.

    "Base is the servant who PAYS!" - also from that movie.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with your statement, it's very wise. I watched a quick clip of the video but will try to watch the whole thing when I get off work. That is Shakespeare right?

    I may be confused on the point you're trying to make though. Would not your duty to God, the king of Kings, be to spread his word? I know that each man has the free will to decide for his soul, but they can be persuaded right?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Were those you claim were"Deists" raised in Atheist, Moslem, Jewish, Scientologist, Wiccan, or Green households? Their value system was shaped in the environment of their youth (just like Obama's).
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And yet, try to hold a job with this administration without bending tacit knee to the Green religion...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly how did that law get passed in Texas?
    I mean, with everyone being atheist except for a few despicable... Christians.

    I would not trust an atheist on a jury or to give truthful testimony on the stand. They've no stake in telling the truth if a lie will benefit them.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Religion" in and of itself does not confer morality.
    Not all religions are equal, as only one can be true.
    In that she was an atheist, in the manner in which she led her life, no, she was not moral.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The last thing I would want to do is convince *you* that God exists...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "When they try to inflict those beliefs on others through anti-murder efforts..."

    "When they try to inflict those beliefs on others through anti-slavery efforts..."

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "If other Mediators come to a different conclusion from mine, that is their affair, It may be that their facts are incomplete, or their aims different."
    - Whitbread's Fyunch<click>, from, "The Mote in God's Eye"
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's scary that you haven't tried to convert non believers. Do you not care that they are going to hell? Christians don't harm atheists, they harm themselves, other religions, and other Christians. An atheist trying to convert you shows he cares about your well being, shows that he thinks you are fooling yourself and sacrificing your life in the process. That is his goal. To say you don't try to convert people is to say you don't value truth nor do you value humanity.

    Have you ever heard of the true Scotsman fallacy? No true Scotsman would murder. So if you hear someone from scotsland killed another man, you just say he wasn't a "real" Scotsman.

    You should at least start attempting to provide people with the truth Fred.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just because one laughs at others doesn't make them incapable of laughing at themselves.

    Also I hope you weren't implying I have a Holy book.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi Fred, Like I've said several times, I ain't buying.

    Do you really promise this time?

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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And you are so antisocial that you consider that an insult. All I can say my friend, you need to really work on your social skills. Maybe getting outside your cave and mixing with us poor dumb peasants might enlighten you a little. But on the other hand I hold out little hope for you. you hate too much and have very little courtesy in your heart.

    Please accept my good bye to you that I have now sent your way 3 or 4 times.

    Fred
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