Allen West: EPA Engaging in Backdoor Gun Control
Posted by UncommonSense 11 years, 11 months ago to Business
They finally got to the Hank Rearden of the Lead Ore smelting industry. (golf clap for the Left) What I'd like to know is, what are the future plans of the current producers of the soon-to-be shutdown company? Surely they're not going to go home & sit down to watch CNN's endless repeat of Ovomit care & the website shenanigans? I'm thinking they'll find another place to set up shop & bring jobs. Canada? Who here in the Gulch knows something about mining lead ore? Obviously, that industry too must be effected too.
(music)...He's gonna change it, and rearrange it....This is absolute power in action.
(music)...He's gonna change it, and rearrange it....This is absolute power in action.
There are several metals not mined in the US including aluminum, nickel, and rare earths, and others have been drastically reduced by EPA and state environmental regulation including copper, cobalt, and of course coal (though not a metal). The impact on that industry (mining, smelting, refining, and production) in general over the last 30 years or so has been so drastic, as in reducing to near extinction levels in many, if not most areas of the US.
Someone asked the question of primary vs. secondary (or recovered) lead for bullets. There is no significant impact on the quality of ammo, whether lead or jacketed. Though I can't quote the numbers, I think that the most lead used in hunting ammo was that for shot for bird hunting which has essentially all been changed to steel for a number of years now, again through EPA because of accumulations in lake and river areas. A significant portion of rifle ammo is expended at ranges, where it is recovered and re-used. Of note is a recent change in the law in California to totally eliminate lead ammo in that state.
Of course there will be cost increases resulting from the need to import primary lead, since recovered lead pricing follows the costs set by primary lead.
Hope this adds some to the discussion.
They had about three years to bring new technology on line. They failed, so far. They also have proprietary new technology they are continuing to develop that may come on line in the future. Some of their employees remain to work on this technology.
AND THERE IS MORE!
Primary smelting isn't their only business. Most of the lead in America comes from recycling batteries and the like. They are in that business too.
There will be no shortage for ammunition. This entire episode will have minimal, if any, short term ripples, and longer term solutions will be put in place either through new technology or supply lines via importation.
Sheesh guys, why don't you get all the facts before you go with your false informational circle jerk?
Where did I find this out. The company itself: http://www.doerun.com/MediaCenter/NewsRe...
I fail to see what your reply has to do with the post I offer on this thread, nor the reason for the comment you added, quoted above. If you'd like to reply to my comments on a subject, please try to do so in a more cogent and relevant manner.
>>"Primary smelting isn't their only business. Most of the lead in America comes from recycling batteries and the like. They are in that business too."<<
Where do you think the lead for the batteries to be recycled came from in the first place, and how do you intend to replace the lead lost in the recycling process or from batteries not turned in for recycling or the increased battery needs as population increases? China, I suppose.
Sounds like more government force and looting applied to the US population to me.
AND Obama had little, if anything, to do with this.
But it's still a cost forced on the US population and looting of their wealth.
proving once again that you can lead a horticulture but you can't make 'em think.
Fast forward to today, I recently had a talk with a recruiter about signing on at Planetary Resources. My career will really have come full circle as I would be working back in the mining industry. Just the big difference this time would be that they will be mining asteroids. I think partially thanks to the fools at the EPA asteroid mining will be a reality in our lifetimes. Their are a few good things coming out of it. First, we wont need to ship water into space. Oddly I see that one as the biggest one. Second, there are some rocks out there that are loaded with stuff that we could make very good use of in a fairly big way. And finally the best part, the EPA cannot stop it..
There are some calibers that are not ever shot in a raw lead form due to physics and chemistry. Any round in the .25 caliber and smaller are just bad choices for shooting a raw lead bullet. the velocity of the projectile is such that they will quickly clog the barrel and will most likely not be in one piece at the target due to the centrificile force tearing the spinning bullet apart.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/...
"President Obama had little, if anything, to do with the longstanding battle between the EPA and the Doe Run Company. Further, if one is to take ammunition manufactures at their word, it does not appear that the Herculaneum closure will have any affect on the availability of ammunition in the United States."
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/...
My point is Ovomit is going after (via the EPA in this example) producers. To see where this ends, Venezuelans lost power last night. They are what we can look forward to if no one can stop this madness.
Looks like they've pretty much shot themselves in the foot, but not with lead Obama had anything to do with.