What good is solving the issue of energy without a clue of business or political sense in a good old boy system. You need a rich Altruist or a group of Altruists so you dont drown and lose everything to liars cheats and theives.

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I'm like the library of Alexandria. I am getting burned out and its a pity there is none to run in and grab what they can to preserve it.


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  • Posted by ShruginArgentina 10 years, 5 months ago
    I would love to know why the individual who started this topic thinks that Altruists or Altruism can solve the "issue" of energy' (whateverr that means).
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    • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago
      It is very refreshing to see a wise query without prejudgment or assumption. Let me start with some general statements or beliefs. There is 30 years of advanced technology trapped and backlogged by those who don't have kind or good intentioned ethics. All you have to do to find out how far science has advanced is to browse what the military is asking for in the SBIR/STTR requisitions. Then you get an idea of how much science is trapped in the military industrial complex and not benefitting humanity. You don't need some kind of access to hidden secrets to know what we already know. Secondly my opinion and belief from experience is that honest win win business scenarios don't come from selfish or greedy people. It is always one sided. The Tesla Edison relationship is a prime example. Liar cheat and thief vs the inventor. For those who believe Edison was an inventor I laugh real hard. Edison invented the scientist sweat shop nothing else. Lastly, its been almost 100 years since Tesla took humanity on a leap forward and some of us have studied, experimented, debated, and found profound advances in technology and are ready to do it again right now. My complaint from my personal lack of business resources or business savvy is that without it I am trapped by those who have a vested interest in the status quo and I am ill equipped to hurdle them. If I could find a allies, people with a win win heart or attitude, (the altruists) I would gladly make them all billionaires for their goodness of spirit and all I would ask in return as payment is a nicely equipped lab and a much more modest fortune. That would then finance my future experiments and benefits I can bestow to humanity as a whole . All who I have approached so far want all of it and not even offer a meager scrap back to the inventor. I might as well post it on Facebook and give it to them because that would be cheaper than begging their audience. That is why I have such a desperate tone and statement. The rich who portray themselves as the movers and shakers and the people responsible for progress are the very anchors holding us back and are examples of the non producers who stifle progress. The innovators have to circumvent the entrenched behemoths and that requires much more than scientific genius. It requires a team of good people with honest intensions where everyone wins as their goals. What would humanity gain if I sold free energy at the same prices as the status quo and become the first trillionaire. With a world struggling to survive that is useless. I can be the boost humanity needs and raise the entire planets standard of living, intellect and be very wealthy at the same time. That is what I struggle to do at this time. I want to shrug but I need help to complete such a feat.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 5 months ago
        ok-
        1. SBIR/STTR means that those contracts were govt paid. OWNED. the govt has interest in the property right. this is not insidious. The inventor is being paid to research.
        2. begging for a modest fortune. this is not a good game plan gavastardis. value for value.
        3. "rich people" successful business people understand the risks/rewards in whatever deal they are looking to make. It is not coercion if an inventor settles. It is choice given the circumstances
        4.My job is to deal with inventors. Altruism is an inefficient "hope" some inventors pine for. It rarely puts food on the table OR technology in humanity's hands
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        • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago
          Ah a good challenge. Thank you for the opportunity to debate. ok my turn.
          1.30 years backlog is insidious. The gap leads to dictatorships and loss of freedom in any society not just ours. That is historical. That is not up for debate. the Phalanx, siege weapons, etc lead to others falling to tyranny. Now can you show me an example of an individual who got in to a good contract with the SBIR/STTR? Show me how or who did and I will learn to do it and would welcome with wide open arms the absolute honor and privilege to be proven wrong, for that would be an opportunity found and to be learned!
          2. A modest fortune is all I need, the rest is up for grabs to those who want it. (the carrot / incentive) Common business practice to incentivize a win win and not a winner take all and to get what I want that is within reason and to my satisfaction not someone else's belief that they need to get it all.
          3. I see money still defines success and not how you got there. So cliché, Its the very reason why we suffer with non producers controlling progress with an anchor to protect their old interests and not move forward. I would quote the core of story in this web site for that but strip the money part. It is an error to say the wealthy make progress. That may have been true back then but not today. The whole mindset of humanity has shifted. We don't believe in the golden rules anymore like we used to.
          4 the "Inefficient hope" is how we survived as a species through devastating environments and voracious predators. That made us top of the food chain and able bring down mastodons for lunch and make lions think twice before making us lunch. It lead to humanity conquering the planet. It is still the driving force of progress even when the only devastating environment left to conquer and predator to be vanquished is now the cancerous black hole thoughts in humans. The altruists are the ones who gave the privilege and the ability to scrap around for that food on the table or someone greedy enough would have perpetuated the feudal society we so recently escaped and not a working republic or democracy. Lets use an example of inventor altruist and results: Was polio initially eradicated through greed? or an altruist researcher? I have to concede that the invention lead to the medical industry losing massive amounts of money for a short time and then came in the greedy to eradicate "cures" in place of medical "maintenance". They believe cures are not profitable endeavors. I cant imagine that attitude eradicated polio. It also wasn't greed that created freedom. Feudalism is the greed game. Republics and democracies come from altruists and such persuasion and the freedom to be an entrepreneur.

          One thing though I see in this forum is that altruism or greed is not fully defined. One persons greedy is actually an entrepreneur and not really an Ebenezer Scrooge. So we need to define what we are saying within those contexts. Same as one persons Altruist could be a modern Union activist or an old time Union activist for they are 180 degrees different today. One fought not to die at work and the other not to work at all. Guess I started rambling :-)
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          • Posted by khalling 10 years, 5 months ago
            1.We represent numerous clients who have gotten SBIR/STTRs-I will admit it is somewhat an inside game. I have never seen these contracts hold up technologies from being commercialized.
            2. Greed and altruism: Ayn Rand's philosophical definition of altruism-you must "sacrifice" yourself to the state, God, anybody who comes along with a need.
            Greed. You're right, we do not normally define the term greed in here. It is not a broad philosophical concept. It is considered a vice by many. Pursuing one's rational self interest is NOT greed. If I proposed a definition- Anyone willing to sacrifice others' natural rights for their material gain.
            The only other definition I can think of would be aggressively pursuing something past the point of rational self interest. Avarice
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago
    Ah very good.

    Well you tell me. Lets think about this for a moment. If someone found the holy grail of free energy or near free energy what or how would vested interests react and where do these interests live and work? would that be held up? Why would it? or why wouldn't it? I can think of many scenarios where I wind up, dead in a goo lag or on a pedestal. Either of these is a viable end and either is scary to me but one is preferred over the other.
    I don't have a PHD but my resume is that as a child my science year books were my comic books. I am a Physics major drop out who never finished. A whole line of tragedies are between then and now that would make a great movie leading up to this point in life including so many occupational near death experiences in the military.
    This is just a simple thing. I studied a plethora of scientists as a hobby and their opinions and then I combined ideas while reading a wiki page on magnetism. A eureka moment happened.
    I am just reaching out for help. The goal is a scenario where I don't get left out or wind up like Tesla penniless and in debt with such a discovery in hand. If you can direct me or join with me to produce my second prototype the rest will just be history that will make itself. I am willing to set up a conference call or a meeting with my patent attorney and just get moving on it. I need to make that second prototype out of materials that wont fly apart. Wood and glue last about 30 seconds before it winds up and busts out a window. I need a real composite prototype. They cost almost 20k when done right. That's my hurdle.

    Oh, the only thing I wanted to claim on the greed and altruism definitions is that I don't fit any of those definitions at least in self observation. I am looking out for family though, just not in an extreme.
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