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Posted by sumitch 9 years, 3 months ago to Government
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I'm sure that more than one has seen the similarity between our administration and the story line of Atlas Shrugged. Is anyone worried besides me?


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  • Posted by jimslag 9 years, 3 months ago
    The biggest problem with voting is that all politicians are members of The Big Government Party. So it does not matter, once they get voted in all they do is create more and more regulations and laws that make our lives more difficult. That is even though all those inside the Beltway think of as milk cows to be milked of all our earnings from our own labor. It has not been the sane way, since before the days of Eisenhower or maybe even Roosevelt or Wilson. It depends on your point of view but in my opinion, we have not had a republic since at least Madison or Jefferson. But being a realist, the foundations have been being torn down since they were written.
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    • Posted by NealS 9 years, 3 months ago
      jimslag, your comment gives me an idea. Like a bottle of milk or a loaf of bread, ALL laws should have an expiration date. When that date comes up, the legislature should vote on keeping it or letting it expire. Things like a law against murder could be renewed if is working. Things like the Dept. of Education would have to prove success or be abolished. The same expirations should be put on eligibilities, like food stamps (drivers licenses), etc., requiring recipients to reapply and get new authorization.

      These new renewal rules would also give our legislators so much to do they might not have as much time to think of new things to take away our freedoms and control us. It would also get rid of all of those archaic laws that make no sense anymore but still exist. It would also allow new legislators to modify archaic laws that were written by their elders.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 3 months ago
        and when you vote on the law (a social experiment), included as part of the bill is the metric by which its success should be measured. If the metric is not met, the law expires.
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    • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago
      I think there were a number of good years between the end of the Civil War and the turn of the decade.
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      • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago
        Up until about 1913. Then the slide began.
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        • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 3 months ago
          actually if i remember correctly AR said all started down hill after the civil was, something about Lincoln she did like.
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          • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 3 months ago
            I agree. Technically it has been sliding since the Constitution was signed and do feel it picked up steam during the civil war. I just believe the real death warrant was signed with the invention of the federal reserve and the income tax. But that was all made more possible by some of the things Lincoln did too. :)
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          • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 3 months ago
            You can make arguments going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, or the alien and sedition laws or Madison vs.. Marbury. But the Civil War established a number of bad precedents, including income taxes, Legal Tender Laws, and the draft. But the real break down started with the Sherman Antitrust Act.
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            • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
              Also one of the ever popular unintended consequences with the 14th amendment which was put in place to insure that previous slaves were given citizenship. Now our glorious politicians use it as an excuse to allow anchor babies to be citizens thereby allowing their illegal alien parents to stay in our country costing tax payers around $50,000/year each, and allowing them the right to vote which they had not earned. But job number one is to stay in office, not to serve the citizenship.
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  • Posted by voodoo59 9 years, 3 months ago
    Nostradamus had nothing on Ayn Rand. I make it a point to read AS every 5 years and encourage my kids and friends to do the same. The older I get, the more prescient she seems. The last 20 years almost seem scripted. Unfortunately, I have no idea where Galt's Gulch might be.
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  • Posted by bsudell 9 years, 3 months ago
    Are you kidding? Constitutional Conservative are going nuts. We are furious at our Congressmen and Senators. Apparently, they think that they answer to the PGOP, not to the public. They made a big mistake with the CROmnibus and re-electing Boehner as Speaker, and they are beginning to find out! Even Mia Love, a new Congresswoman, voted for him! What??? They had better start listening -- or they are done.
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  • Posted by Ranter 9 years, 3 months ago
    I have been worried, ever since Obama was elected. I knew what was coming. The socialist progressive agenda was clear and unambiguous. Even so, the parallels have, at times, been startling, like the situation between the railroad and the wheat harvest.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 9 years, 3 months ago
    The sad thing is that it is not just THIS administration. We have only had a very brief slowing of the progressive/liberal agenda during Reagan's time. There has been no real pause since at least 1960. (I was born during WWII so I'm too young to remember much about Ike or Truman.)
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 3 months ago
    Yes.

    What I find interesting is how the leftists I know REALLY hate Atlas Shrugged and Ayn Rand. They'd rather have dinner with satan. It must really pain them to see what's going on but not be able to mention that they see it. Or, maybe they're just insane.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 3 months ago
    sumitch,
    you have every reason to be concerned. keep in mind that when Ayn Rand wrote the book she did not know of what is also occurring in the world today. not only has the government with it mass of rules and regulations driven companies from the usa off shore which has depleted tax revenue, and increased welfare but we have the missing links from the desert successfully imposing problems on the free world. we have a bunch of people called "leaders" giving us the shaft.

    in order to correct things here the basic philosophy has to change and that MUST start in the universities. then all the rules and regulations that drove companies off shore have to be repealed that should take about 10 years if we are lucky.

    now for the missing links of the desert; the only way to stop them is to DESTROY all oil production there. that is their only source of income. that means all of the saudi production, as well as every other well, the saudis are from the wahabi tribe and the hate the sunnis and shiites and of course these 2 hate the others as well. but they function on the basis of "my enemys enemy is my friend" so they are otherwise in cahotes. but if the oil production is destroyed they will not be able to barter for weapons. they don't give money for the weapons they give oil.

    the bottom line is the demise that you are seeing will just continue until we in the usa are equal to all of the poverty ridden countries of the world. Leonard Peikoff wrote in DIM 40 years at this rate but I said I don't think we will last 40 years and his response was he didn't think things would deteriorate this fast.

    get a bug out bag
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    • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
      Destroy the Saudi oil production and no one in the country excepting the titled nobility (the government) will be able to get or afford gasoline or oil. We need the XL pipeline and anything else that makes us less dependent on other countries.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
      Gee, if we start changing things at the universities the Ferguson issues and other of the same will force the traumatized darlings at Harvard to be unable to take their tests.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 3 months ago
    Every year my wife and I will look at the newspaper or TV and simply say the word, "Closer." Meaning we keep getting closer to the world of Atlas Shrugged. However, it will not give us any satisfaction when at a certain point we can say, "I told ya so."
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 3 months ago
    Having read AS long before the less than brilliant one was elected, I could see what was happening before the election. The Alinsky methods. The set classes and races against each other, all the while giving speeches of serving all. Bull! The international elite needed a tool and they got one, a puppet, but the uneducated masses have made him dangerous. If everyone had read AS in high school, required, none of this could have happened. I really do not know what we can do to stop it, as the RINOs roll on with the rest. The Mexicans will revolt and claim the Southwest for Mexico. The Sharia law will ooze into every community. Agenda 21 will take our property rights away, dictate reproduction and even eating choices. I hope someone has an idea.
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  • Posted by samrigel 9 years, 3 months ago
    After dimwits election in 2008 I was promptly to read Atlas Shrugged again. I saw the similarities back then to his demeanour and kind of knew what was about to happen!
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    • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
      Funny when I read AS and others such as Come Nineva Come Type in high school I would never have believed that this country could become what it has., But I was just a 50's cub and boy scout, civil patrol and believed the BS that the government has shoveled into the history books and out of the mouths of far too many politicians. We also recited the Lords Prayer and the Pledge every school morning and at every scouting meeting. Such was it like as children of and members of the greatest generation.
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      • Posted by samrigel 9 years, 3 months ago
        I also read AS earlier in life. But was not that enthralled. Back then I put it alongside of "The Old Man in the Sea" which was boring. Remembering AS after doing my research on Obummer It now made so much sense and it is the direction the US is traveling.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 3 months ago
          We're in very serious trouble in our country. With Hillery in the wings I can see nothing but a continuing downhill run. Obamacare is nothing but a transfer of money from those of us that worked and earned it to those that didn't do much of anything but sit around with their hands out. The fact that so many companies have moved to other countries to avoid the taxes and regulations in the U S ties in nicely with the theme of Atlas Shrugged. Ditto the oil platforms that moved out of the gulf to avoid Obama and his extortion and are now off the coast of Brazil and Africa probably never to come back. Sounds all too familiar.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 3 months ago
    Unfortunately, Galt's Gulch is only online for now. Someday if a Midas Mulligan joins this group is the only way New Atlantis (Galts Gulch) will come into being.
    Obamacare has been a mess for us living in a rural area. The Congressperson for this area is a Democrat and got re-elected. So, we're screwed. We don't make enough money and in the wrong age bracket (8 months till 65) to get onto a plan. The closest Doctors and Hospital are an hour away.
    I'm so damn angry at this situation!
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