Hey, Maph... you missed one...

Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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While I'm loathe to defend Alec Baldwin, even if he said what he was accused of saying, it wasn't "homophobic".
"Homophobic" would have been something like, "Oh, my God! Run! There's a c*ks**king f*g approaching! Run for your lives! Godzirra! Godzirra!"

Meanwhile, while we're expected to allow the warping of a perfectly good word to promote the stereotype of homosexuals as being effeminate (to wit: "gay"), "redneck" is continued to be used as a welcome slur by one and all w/o the least bit of outrage anywhere outside of my apartment. "Dumbf**king redneck" is still perfectly acceptable. (and God forbid you should name your football team "redskins"; it might offend some aborigines whose permanent tan is the color of red Oklahoma clay.)

And while I'd probably be taken to court for referring to Obama as "The Democrats boy", any white male you encounter is fair game, regardless of age, to be called "white boy".

And don't tell any homosexual jokes (even if they're about Barney Frank, a walking, talking, homosexual joke), but feel free to tell dumb blonde jokes.

But, blondes can always die their hair, and join in twisting perfectly useful words like "chairman" into tongue twisters such as "chairperson". Or dropping "actress" and "hostess" altogether. And God forbid you should refer to "flight attendants" as "stewards" and "stewardesses".

My point (you knew I'd get around to one, have faith) is that it doesn't matter that the slur Baldwin used was directed at the (probably inaccurately) presumed sexual appetite of his victim. Had he called the guy a "baby-raping bastard" it would have been equally offensive (and probably equally inaccurate). But, no, they don't make the issue that Baldwin has a propensity for curse-laced verbal abuse, which it should be; they make the issue that this particular curse-laced verbal abuse violated the requirement that we all must embrace and accept homosexuality.




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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    not completely maph. I have a close friend who has a great gay marriage and they have have two daughters. She is very clear she can go either way. But she fell in love. I don't think you can downplay people's experiences. I am not saying that biology doesn't play a role. I think it does for many. Love is a powerful motivator.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sexual orientation is controlled by biology. As such, it must be subject to deviation and mutation, just like every other aspect of biology.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We have talked about ALL of that many many times and probably will again soon...check old posts. What is wrong with talking about other things sometimes. I don't appreciate you coming in with guns drawn about our discussions. It's not constructive. If you want to discuss something..open a post about that topic. Stop whipping us.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay, let's get it straight.
    I didn't bring this up as celebrity gossip. CHECK YOUR PREMISES.

    This is the issue of political correctness, one of the most powerful and pervasive tools used by the left to shape us into a collectivist paradise.

    This isn't celebrity gossip about who's banging who in Hollyweird; it's about the media, *intentionally* focusing on the verbal abuse employing derogatory references to homosexuality, rather than on the verbal abuse itself.

    So, this is about political correctness, not about celebrities or gossip.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I still don't understand what kind of resume you're asking for... >_>

    What kind of information are you wanting, exactly?
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All I can say to that is that I don't really get your point. Is the present condition of our economy so wonderful that nothing is left to say? Do the more than 1,000 pages of Atlas Shrugged not cause enough thought for even more than a year? Do the corrupt politics of today not mirror the plot of Atlas Shrugged. Does the sheer morality and determination of John Galt, Dagney Taggart and Ayn Rand's many other characters not deserve thoughtful commentary? I for one believe they do. Hopefully I will find others that agree. Please remember that most Americans care more about the daily stupid behavior of the so called "celebrities" and perhaps that is the reason for the present condition of our nation.

    Fred
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for the info, those thumbs are so obvious, they faded into the background. Must be my tunnel-vision from being an old man.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I get your point. and I enjoyed your post btw. I gave it a thumbs up and gave comments in the post some points as well. You're pretty new yet, so I suggest you wait and watch for awhile. All of suggestions have become posts in the past. I suggest again that you go to the top of the page and select a category such as business, economics, or philosophy. The vast majority in here have made many serious posts. But it's also nice to discuss other issues knowing the audience in general. There's plenty of room for some laughter, irony, the arts, etc
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You use the thumbs up and thumbs down icons that are above and below the point value assigned to the text. This point value is found on the left-side of the text.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey Fred - welcome to the site. If you don't like the meandering of the people actually interested in the main course around here, just wait until you see the trolls make their presence known. It's a public website with free posting rules. There's no attempt made to regulate it, and there's nothing to be gained by getting upset about it. Have you seen postings:
    Shrinking Pie Economics
    Rich People Aren't Makers, They Are Takers
    Legislation Realizes Morality
    Chime right in. Make your own content too. People are interested in having discussions around here. Even on this particular post, I read it over and I think Hiraghm got it exactly right in his explanation. People post examples of PC run amok here all the time. Doesn't seem out of context to me.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We've been talking about Rand for over a year in here...which is great and we do it all the time...sometimes other topics want to be discussed as well. If all were allowed to do in the gulch is talk about Rand and nothing else....... that seems silly. Did I just say "allowed"?? I think that makes my point better than what I just said.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    by each post and by each comment there is a number. a blue thumbs up button and a blue thumbs down. click your pleasure. I will tell you though I often point up a comment I disagree with if I want more people to join in the conversation. the more points a comment has, the further up the thread it travels.
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    Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm afraid you are missing my point. This website is called Galt's Gulch, is it too much to ask that the writers stick to subjects of consequence? There are thousands of sites that deal with gossip, why clutter up this site. Frankly I'm disappointed, mostly because the writers are in fact talented, even those engaging in such gossip. It's not that I find the peccadilloes of so called celebrities without humor, just not on this site. By the way, I have posted a piece that has caused a few people to comment thoughtfully.

    Fred
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: khalling,
    No, I;m not proposing that, what I'm hoping to see are discussions that deal with the general philosophy of Ayn Rand. As an example, I would point to my posted, titled: Are American Bankers the Jews of 1938 Germany? I don't mean to put my post as being in some way superior, only to point out the fact that Ayn Rand's philosphy is important and that post touches on many of her points. For example, the present administrations attacks on Wall Street and business in general. Pitting one group against another, by scapegoating earned wealth as being the evil on this earth instead of the source of jobs. The constant barrage of false claims directed towards successful people as if they are only successful because they cheated the poor. Perhaps the time has come for the achievers to go on strike and let the moochers see where their next meal is coming from.

    My ultimate point to criticizing some of the posts is that we have serious matters to deal with, let the moochers deal with the celebrity gossip.

    Fred
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  • Posted by 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The TMZ link I got from Twitchy.com.
    Political correctness as a tool of the looters and moochers *is* a relevant topic here, IMO.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I appreciate your input Fred. You're not going to like all the posts. If you don't like it, vote it down. If enough individuals in here don't like something they vote and it is pretty clear. This post made the Daily digest though and enjoys three points and 35 comments. But I'm happy to have the discussion with you. Are you proposing that each post has to directly relate to the AS movies or AR or AR's books or Objectivism?
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 8 months ago
    Please explain to me what this topic has to do with a website devoted to the writings of Ayn rand and the movies made based on her book Atlas Shrugged?

    This sort of discussion belongs on the TMZ site where all those concerned with "celebrity" moronic statements belong.

    I would further question the webmaster of Galt's Gulch to explain why there are apparently no standards of any kind for posting on this site?

    My purpose is not to restrict free speech, but to encourage appropriate topics for this site.

    Fred Speckmann
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wouldn't it be amazing if some powerful politician took that position and got a majority to her/his side?
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