This is worse than an erroneous prejudging facts because it has a philosophical element. Some of the agitators have said that facts depend on how different people see them, and this entire 'protest' movement, including the media pandering, has been driven by a racist 'narrative' into which all facts are twisted and evaded to make them fit.

They try to block the threat _and_ go after the perpetrator if he tries to get away. Both occurred in this case.

The thug probably has psychological problems, but the motive is not the issue in fending off an attack. This thug was extremely hostile and belligerent, and vicious in his physical attacks.

But the cop couldn't use his phasor on stun because he didn't have one in the car. He had mace and a few other things but ruled out using them for logical reasons.

Different tools for different situations. The cop felt in fear of his life. He has no idea if that taser (even if he could reach it) would work - someone attacking a cop at least has psychoological issues, if not on judgment-impairing drugs that render a taser useless -

If someone is attacking you with intent on mayhem or death, do you wish to (a) end the threat and survive the situation, (b) let the threat continue and end up with a widow and orphan left behind. Or your wife caring for an invalid on whatever she makes (because the husband was terminated for not following procedure, and lost that 50% disability retirement)

As I said - cops aren't trained to turn the other cheek when attacked. They are taught to neutralize the threat. the officer in this case did just that.

As Mark Levin has said, this wasn’t about race. It was about right versus wrong , and in this case wrong ended up being caught and killed. I prefer it to be this way.
I would love to ask those who disagree with the grand jury’s conclusion , just which facts do you disagree with? Unfortunately for those who have already made up their minds long before the facts come out, facts are an inconvenient thing, but in a nation that believes in the rule of law, the facts are by which we judge events. To not do so would bring anarchy to this nation.

Maybe YOU should have nothing to do with this thread. And big surprise you didn't answer the questions that I posed.

Socialism is slow smack in the face for everyone, which has nothing to do with this thread.

The answer is illustrated by Obama's belated supposed call for 'calm' followed extensively, in the same speech, by another community organizer speech that only served, and was intended to, fan the flames as he blamed the civilized victims.

There has been, once again, the 'sanction of the victim' mentality pandering to the mobsters and their phony moral superiority, leading to fear of enforcing the law against the thugs -- both the common thugs and the Alinskyite/Obama/Holder thugs deliberately turning everything they can into a manufactured 'crisis' to be spun and exploited in their non-stop attack on the American civilization of individualism. Obama and Holder have been hyping this controversy into a progressive 'narrative' for the same reason that the organizers cynically maneuvered well-planned spontaneous riots designed for publicity served up by a willing media. The facts have not mattered in any of it. So would should the known threat of violence ignored by the National Guard be any different or a surprise?

Ferguson would have been better served had Al Sharpton would have kept his mouth shut and off camera view.

That is not the cause of the "finger pointing".

The cop attacked by Brown did not make a mistake. Using his gun to defend himself and enforce the law against a thug is not the source of the Ferguson controversy.

Nicely done!

The emphasis on deadly force came from the thug who attacked a police officer with such repeated viciousness that it threatened his life. The thug got what it deserved to stop it.

Sweet home Obama
where we all wear red,
sweet home Obama!
That's allosaur's dread--?
No, wrong tune.

Way down in the land of welfare rotten,
where all the illegals are picking cotton.
Look away, look away
Look away to Marxist Utopia land!
Nyet! Nyet! Nyet!
Wrong tune again! Shucks!

As Ferguson grabs the headlines, thousands of new regulations designed to kill our economy are enacted. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/201...

awesome. I knew you'd bring it

Excellent. +1

There is great irony there, but something else is askew in Ferguson. Something just doesn't fit. After a bit of thought, it came to me that the first night of rioting after the verdict, was handled entirely wrong. They had many weeks to prepare. The whole nation was told that no matter what the verdict, there would be riots because there was no way a black man can be treated fairly in America. So, we were told, all preparations were made and yet, the National Guard was never deployed. We saw the State Police and the Local Police stand by as stores were looted and cars burned. What's with that? Where did all that preparation dissolve away to? Where was Holder? Where was Obama? Was there a call from Washington to hold back? It was more like reality theater than a riot. It was like a Kabuki or an opera. There were no surprises because you were told in advance how it would turn out. Speaking of that it made great television. Everyone participating, the rioters, the media, were having a heluva good time. Can't say the same for the shop owners, though. Many of them had everything they owned tied up in their investment. Probably, they will never get insurance again, if they had it in the first place. They'd be crazy to re-open.. So, what have the people of Ferguson gained? Nothing. Actually, less than nothing since a once thriving neighborhood will most likely remain a burnt out slum.

Maybe we need to give the cops better tools that arent so permanent as a gun. We expect them to be perfect and be judge/jury/executional and never make mistakes. Thats a heavy burden to put on a cop with a gun pointed at him. If we had some sort of device that was fast, light, effective at totally temporarily disabling the perp, and non lethal- that would serve our cops well and not subject them to this ferguson type of harassment

Perhapswe can find some technological breakthrough that will allow a cop to completely disable a killers ability to inflict harm without killing him. I am just saying that for cops, this would be the ideal thing to cut down on all this finger pointing. You are assuming that there is NO defense against a gun except another gun. There would be a tremendous market for some sort of non lethal, yet totally temporarily disabling device.

They tried to spin this 18 year old adult criminal thug as an innocent 14 year old child, and when it didn't work, threaten the grand jury into falsifying their decision, and they lost both bids. And now daddy yells "Burn the M---F---ers down, kill them all, etc."?? Yeah, looks like the innocent 14 year old didn't fall far from the tree there...

Some have the gall to ask why the officer didn't just drive away. To that, let me answer (as a cop's ex-wife)...

The police officer is NOT paid to stand on the sidelines and watch - they are paid to enforce the law, investigate crime, keep the peace, and take whatever legal action deemed necessary to do so. If they are attacked, they do not have the duty to "turn the other cheek" - they have the duty to protect themselves.

My opinion - the cop was in the right. That he lost his job is just a bone thrown to the looters who want thug law. Were I a mayor, I would, without a doubt, ask him to consider applying for our department. I am considering writing our Sheriff and suggesting just that.

We need LESS cops who are corrupt, that aren't dedicated, and that turn the other cheek and a blind eye to the scum overwhelming our towns and our citizens. If you don't like cops eyeballing you - then don't go looting and burning and rioting, quit trying to be a gang banger thug and future inmate, obey the laws like the rest of us. Maybe, once you've shown you're not a criminal waiting for their chance, you WILL be treated fairly. Until then - keep showing your face between two CNN anchors saying "Youre Dead"... and inciting riot. They will be there, looking and waiting for you.

The march, of the scumbags
to put their town in flames,
now go raise up your sledgehammers
to smash and loot and burn...
WE, say that we're not treated right
so we, shall now strike up the Looter's plight
and we' shall riot all the night
In Fer gu son...
Steal, the things that are not ours
Burn, businesses and homes and bars
blame, the visitors and those cop cars
for our criminal acts...

(Sung to "The Internationale", much to the anguish of the moocher class... Sorry, ran into a road block on the tune, and no longer have the "Soviet Army Mens Choir" cassette tape to refresh my memory. If you wish to continue, please do.)

Nudge is as good as a wink to a blindered man... Know what I mean, say no more?? --grins--

I'll hazard a guess to answer that... the American sheeple, who will believe everything the current politicians spew, and everything (especially (un)reality shows) they see on TV.

Not sure the OP would agree with me, but it is what it is.

"cops to find some other way of protecting themselves from attackers with guns and other lethal items-BESIDES KILLING THEM." Huh? Doesn't make sense, term2. In a shooting situation, there is no time for non-lethal aiming and firing, like in the movies. The opponent is shooting to kill, not maim. To think otherwise is a fool's pipedream, the stuff of unicorns and fairy dust, totally unrealistic.

Oh Ferguson, Oh Ferguson,
How lovely are your bonfires
like gasoline thrown on the flames,
all from the words of liars.
"My hands are up, oh please don't shoot"
Oh what a laugh, oh what a hoot
And if you ask the reason why,
the truth and ev'dence, just can't lie.

Excellent post, IIGeo.