I need to move to Seattle!

Posted by Rozar 4 years, 12 months ago to Politics
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I learned recently to not be surprised when the government rolls out another big program. I've learned not to be angry or confused or sad, but to laugh. Because expecting something to act against its nature, and then being genuinely surprised when it does what it has always done, is the behavior of an insane person. That being said, this has to be the funniest thing I've heard in a week.

So you might recall that Seattle elected an actual socialist to the city council. Like legitimate stands behind the red flag socialist. Well I like to keep tabs on what's happening on the other side of the philosophical world to see what they're up to and, lo' and behold, she is deciding to get free Wifi installed in all of the homeless campus of Seattle! This is so insane it blows my mind.

The details are the best part. Breezing through the quick joke of Internet access bring a human right, going through the few articles reveals that the local news crew decided to ask the homeless if they thought it was a good idea. You can ask anyone who doesn't understand economics, which is most everyone, if they want free stuff and I assure you they'll answer in the affirmative. Let alone people who are in a position of economic ruin what they need to get out of it. Ask someone who knows how to get OUT of poverty what the homeless need.

Another juicy part is that they won't tell anyone how much this proposal would cost, although the city has dedicated $100,000 to improving the tent cities. This is good on multiple counts. First, they're spending money on improving poverty. Think about that for a second. They want to make poverty MORE appealing. No reduction in taxes or reduction of regulations to remove poverty, just make the people there more comfortable. The second part is that they won't tell anyone the cost. That's really great because honest workers have no idea how much their spending on buying Internet access for other people. Then you have the fact that out of a $100,000 dollar budget, THIS is what comes to the table. They have other Council members concerned about restrooms, OR maybe food and shelter but nope not the socialists.

Anyway here are some links.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Seatt...

http://www.inquisitr.com/1613962/seattle...



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  • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 4 years, 12 months ago
    The very BEST defense we have against totalitarianism, socialism, communism, Marxism, fascism, and more IS freedom.
    Freedom of Speech;
    Freedom of the Press;
    Freedom of Religion;
    Equality;
    and most of all, the freedom of expression to TRY socialist experiments BY STATE.

    It always fails as people flee to other states.

    That's why many proponents of these ideologies try to bring them in under other names, or otherwise try to do it all simultaneously around the world; it will never work as long as people have some where to run to.

    LET THEM EXPERIMENT! Reveal it in the press. Talk about it, and watch it fail and hold the bloody carcass of their efforts up for them to see!

    They will never stop. Let them beat their minds free on the wall of Freedom.

    Reveal them, but give them freedom.
    They won't know just how much damage they can do to their own cause with enough freedom.
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    • Posted by  $  jlc 4 years, 12 months ago
      This is a crucial aspect of freedom - the freedom to be wrong; the freedom to totally disagree with me. (Not necessarily the same thing!) But it needs to be visible and transparent and publicized. Money in; money out.

      Let them do it.

      In the meantime, I am looking for a state that is experimenting in the opposite direction.

      Jan
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      • Posted by plusaf 4 years, 12 months ago
        And one of the best case studies to watch has been, for decades now, California.

        Even FL rejected a high-speed rail boondoggle that CA is still pursuing.

        Looking for sanity? Occasionally, states with non-Liberal governors and legislatures do a few sensible things, but it's not as if they're without downsides either... I'm in NC and liberals are apoplectic over some of our (Rep.) Governor's beliefs and actions. We should look surprised?
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      • Posted by jpellone 4 years, 12 months ago
        Well Jan I can show you results of the long agonizing experiment. Look at Ohio and what has happened since a Republican took over governor after about 50 years of Democrats, the state is finally operating in the black and the jobless rate has gone way down. I think the experiment is over and most of us already know the results!
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        • Posted by  $  jlc 4 years, 12 months ago
          I recently saw a report on the 'states that allowed pot' and the 'states that were pro-gun'. The only state that is both is Minnesota. Minnesota is too damn cold - I am certainly not a warmist, but I do sometimes wonder if the icers are correct. (This takes out Alaska too.) I am hoping that Texas will veer further towards libertarianism - it is big, it has a coast, it has a lot of military bases and retired military in it and it has lots of room.

          Hmmm. I just realized that 'where the military goes to retire' may be an important demographic in the rationality and liberty of a state. I need to look this up.

          Jan
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          • Posted by jpellone 4 years, 12 months ago
            I Agree. Minnesota is way too cold. Here in Texas it gets very hot in the summer but it sure beats a lot of snow.

            Hmmm, I never really considered that? Maybe you are on to something...
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    • Posted by 4 years, 12 months ago
      Well said. I think there's a process to dealing with people who have bad ideologies. The first step is to try to reason them out of it. Let them know as many facts as you feel like mustering up until you just get fed up with their stubbornness. The next step is dissociation, you understand you can't help them so you do your best to distance yourself from their inevitable destruction so when they go down they don't drag you with them. After that you prepare your defense's in case you can't or refuse to run anymore. Get ready for their lashing out and destructive behavior to reach your doorstep and be ready with both physical and mental defenses. In the case of a friend on a destructive path you have to steel your heart to their please for escape from the consequences of their actions.
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    • Posted by teri-amborn 4 years, 12 months ago
      If I'm being shaken down in order to provide (through taxation) what another should be working for then it's not freedom.
      As my husband and I say: "At least they could clean my house in exchange for these freebies!"
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      • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 4 years, 12 months ago
        Nope, but the freedom to live in a state like that, or to live in a state that refuses to do that is one of our strengths and IS freedom.
        It allows different states to try different things and all of us can see the results.
        Be happy there is a California. We learn a lot about what NOT to do.
        We should encourage such experiments at state level and utterly oppose them at Federal level.
        Let them crash and keep the Federal government out of it.
        They're always going to try such things.
        If they do it with the country, THEN we're in trouble. (They're trying...).
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        • Posted by teri-amborn 4 years, 12 months ago
          Too true....and good point.
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          • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 4 years, 12 months ago
            Seconded.
            A price we give for having states with their own freedom.
            What's the alternative?
            Force them all to one standard?
            It's that wealth is portable that makes us free.
            We can sell land and move.
            Best we can do.
            The oppression of having a government (state or otherwise) that forces YOUR or MY way on people is not the the government our Founders had in mind.
            But if that division of power, limiting Federal government but giving States everything not delineated specifically for the Federal government isn't what people want...well, there are other countries.
            We may not like the choice Seattle and Oregon as a whole make, but I'd rather that than the oppressive forcing of a Federal government dictating to the States.

            Good reason to actually run for office or be involved in whatever state you live in - save you a move.
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            • Posted by teri-amborn 4 years, 12 months ago
              You gave me a chuckle.

              We have a friend who served as an alderman (or as I refer to him: Aldermaniac) who informs us that the average city counsel meeting consisted of 20% actual city issues and 80% is just folks wanting the city counsel to fix their personal problems.

              The only place that I could survive that kind of tripe is in as place where folks are
              logical and have objective values about life and how it works.
              Then again, maybe teaching starts at the political level.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 12 months ago
    I have a close friend who just moved from the Detroit area to live with his daughter in Seattle. I may be able to give a first hand report in the near future. Looks like Seattle is trotting along the same path as Detroit did 40 years ago.
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    • Posted by NealS 4 years, 12 months ago
      Homelessness is becoming a real profession here in the Settle area. On the Eastside (the affluent suburb of Bellevue) we have a young lady that makes her living by begging on the street corner. She's been there for about 5 years now and she still uses the same sign that states, "Homeless and pregnant". Apparently it still works.

      Most corners here seem to be reserved, the same person or couple there all the time. On occasion, probably when they dry up, they actually move. Couples is becoming the new way, and some even have a nice little dog with them.

      I carry cards, "Veteran Crisis Line" that I give to those claiming to be vets, and I usually tell them that the next time I come by here I don't want to see you here again. Sometimes they seem to take a short vacation or find another spot for a while, but usually come back to their home spot.

      We've learned from animals about dependency, but we can't seem to understand that we too are not much more than animals ourselves. In fact we seem to be going more and more in that direction. Why work when someone is willing to just give it to you?
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      • Posted by  $  allosaur 4 years, 12 months ago
        Dem-loving comrade citizens, it is imperative that we must spend, spend, spend so the homeless may dine and weather blizzards in tax-paid tents while watching Red Skelton's Freddie the Freeloader on Youtube. Then we must spend some precious more to see to it that beggars and panhandlers, hobos and tramps, druggies and alkies, barely legals and illegals, the walking dead and the really dead may be provided transportation to the polls and told how to vote.
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  • Posted by jyokela 4 years, 12 months ago
    I am trying to get out of Seattle and away from that kind of sh*t. Don't surround yourself with enemies, it makes you feel like you are always under attack and that you can never relax. STAY AWAY!
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 4 years, 12 months ago
    They should be overrun with homeless soon. They have the worst drug addiction problem there too I think. Give out free needles and stuff. Seattle is stunning.
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    • Posted by  $  JCLanier 4 years, 12 months ago
      Now I understand why I know an impressive number of Dems that hang out in that Portland//Seattle area. Liberal is a mild word for some of them...
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      • Posted by plusaf 4 years, 12 months ago
        You just reminded me of the time I was driving a rental car north on the interstate from SEATAC Airport. Wide open road, little traffic, and (BUT) EVERYONE was doing EXACTLY the posted limit.

        The road was safe for at least ten mph more than that, but all the drivers were either sheeple or terrified of local law enforcement. I don't remember seeing any patrol cars, though. I guessed is was herd mentality... Baaaaaaaaaaa!
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  • Posted by khalling 4 years, 12 months ago
    " First, they're spending money on improving poverty. Think about that for a second. They want to make poverty MORE appealing."
    I miss rozar in here more often. *sigh*
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  • Posted by rbunce 4 years, 12 months ago
    Wifi access is so the reporters doing homeless stories can submit their stories from the field to get on their media outlet websites faster without using their smartphone minutes... or for the addicts to surf the darknet looking for good drug deals.
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  • Posted by H6163741 4 years, 12 months ago
    I assume they are getting free computers too? Or are they just getting WIFI and nothing to access it with? That would be pretty funny/sad....
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  • Posted by wiggys 4 years, 12 months ago
    the liberals wake up each morning thinking of how they can make themselves feel better by making possible using taxpayer money to give to those who have nothing something. this activity never stops no matter how much those liberals can extract from the taxpayers to give more and more to the people with their hands out always begging for more. so why are you surprised when a liberal comes up with any thought on what to give the group of indigents who chose to be indigent.
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  • Posted by  $  Commander 4 years, 12 months ago
    "At a time when citizens are being arrested for daring to offer food to the homeless population..."

    "Don't Feed the Monkeys"......they become dependent!
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  • Posted by iroseland 4 years, 12 months ago
    The whole are is pretty much built for junkies. The doctors prescribe opiates like they are candy and then expect people not not get addicted. Its kind of a mess..
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  • Posted by RevJay4 4 years, 11 months ago
    Again, proof that the left is absent of common sense and logic in their thinking. The far left even more so.
    So glad we don't live in the Seattle area anymore.
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