Graham, McCain blast Paul filibuster

Posted by Eudaimonia 11 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Last night, Rand Paul threw down a gauntlet.
Then Establishment GOP is *not* happy.

Pop the corn, let the fun begin.


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  • Posted by Coder 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In "An Untitled Letter, 1973" (chapter 11 of "Philosophy: Who needs it?") while speaking to the argument that unbiased (re ignorant) humans will make decisions according to game theory she had a better answer. Quoting her here:
    As to the "maximin" rule of choice, I can annul Mr. Rawls's social contract, which requires unanimity, by saying that in long-range issues I choose that alternative whose best possible outcome is superior to the best possible outcome of the others. "You seek to escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness...." (Atlas Shrugged).

    To put this in concrete terms, had I voted for McCain back in '08, I'd have been voting for the choice with the least pain (maybe).

    Am I communicating better? BTW: Perhaps I'm too hard on Boener?
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  • Posted by Coder 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What I've heard so far of Boener's role in removing certain "non-conforming" "tea-party" republicans from committees and such (sorry no details, my talk radio sources (Huckabee, etc) may have me horns-waggled, but he seems way to eager to compromise principles to political expediency.... that was the point at the end of my comment.
    Regarding the House picking the president, I do need to reread my constitution there, but I believe that were we to have a sufficiently split Electoral College vote that the House of Representatives would elect the President... Thus if NEITHER candidate were acceptable, then voting for a third party would not necessarily give the game to the worst candidate. Didn't Ayn Rand herself say (in regard to long term strategy) it is better to choose the option that might give you the best possible outcome rather than the the one that had the less worst outcome? (no, I'm not saying it as well as she did, of course and I hope I've kept the sense of her statement).
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  • Posted by CapeEsperance 11 years, 2 months ago
    saw a post elsewhere (lucianne) on this subject that used "Vichy John McCain and Ms Graham". I have added #vichyjohnmccain to my tweets
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    hey, why r you in here? I have a snafu (ha!) and so I'll see you in the gulch until monday!
    war mapping. is that making him older than his years? should we make all the javiers older than their years? interesting question
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah...maybe I just test him on war mapping instead of his words next time...he already knows 'em anyway...and we can talk about how you wait til you see the whites of their eyes... Imagine the uproar. sigh.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As much as I'd love to have that conversation I'd probably catch it if somebody over heard it.... ugh. I'm definitely going to ask him to tell me more about what he's read though. :)
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OH! sheesh..next time just point it out... well I guess that is what you did, but I'm a dork and missed it. derp!
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Coder, I need the fifth grade explanation. I understand the succession, what is your point exactly?
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    yea. LS, ask Javier and report back, I'd like to know his interpretation. and sneak him a hint on how to draw wars on paper
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    oh. will that post NEVER go away????
    are you tucked in safely back at home? give us a sum up-sleepover with the girls style-in the Lounge. :)
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  • Posted by Coder 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reaching out to and educating the ignorant bloated city populaces (populi?) re reality and why they should vote for a particular GOP or Dem or Lib or Natural Law or whatever party candidate notwithstanding, might the biggest systemic problem we face be the current two-party system? as a for instance, had neither BO nor MR gotten then requisite electoral colledge votes, I believe it is up to the House to select a President, and not necessarily from the contenders... oh wait, I just remembered who the House chose for their own leader... maybe the two party system ain't so bad after all...
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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I DO remember that quote in history... wonder how many other youngsters will learn that line... hopefully Javier will know it and pass it on.....
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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Involuntary sperm extraction, with the dollar store turkey baster...Lol !! going back a few months eh....
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago
    good one! I hope I last longer than tears for fears did, however. lol
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago
    fine. I can't remember-please tell me it had nothing to do with involuntary sperm extraction
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    maj, I agree with you about the electoral college, but there's not a ton of work to do in the middle of the country. it is the city centers that must be changed inside out. Republicans are dinos when it comes to social media, entertainment, real heroism (like Paul's dramatic stand). it works when they try it out, ESPECIALLY in the cities. ex: could not Governor Christie have capitalized on the fight for Sandy Hook aftermath/rebuild with the strengths our national govt lack? his state languished under bloated, ineffectual federal govt's ability to help. He should have denounced the President and feds while extolling the virtues of how regular citizens were stepping up as heroes to get things done. instead he groveled for every bone, and snarled and snapped at the very people who praise competence and integrity and rugged individualism- those who can accomplish. powerful message to city dwellers who have decided if anything goes wrong, play dead...or loot. Those who do not live in large city centers have no understanding of lack of self-reliance. These events are clear opportunities to illustrate the differences between party's.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good catch, DK. I hadn't seen that one. My respect for Guilani is pragmatic. He did about as good a job as any mayor could do in NYC.
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