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would you put your husband on a plane to CA next week?

Posted by $ winterwind 6 years, 9 months ago to News
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and perhaps more importantly, on a plane back at the end of the week?
how paranoid should we be, really?
I'm not thinking travel to border states is a good idea right now, but this is a work requirement.
Your thoughts, please.


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  • Posted by $ Mimi 6 years, 9 months ago
    I would feel safe to travel. Mr. Duncan, the first patient, presented on Sept. 28. No one else has been infected by him (Unless some one comes forward in the next three days)
    The two nurses are isolated being treated. It seems that at this point it has been contained.
    I would be more concerned with whooping cough and enterovirus which is being brought into this country via a porous border.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonia 6 years, 9 months ago
    Sorry, cyberwizard, I normally would not insert myself in domestic affairs, so this is coming as a friend.

    I believe nothing this Keystone Cops clown car of Marxists criminals has to say.

    Joan & I are avoiding all major population centers and huge gatherings of people until there is objective proof that this thing is contained.

    But, Joan and I both work from home.

    Use your best judgement.
    I would see if teleconferencing was an option.
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  • Posted by $ cyberwizard 6 years, 9 months ago
    Hi all, I am currently crossing the continental divide at 38000 feet. Thanks for all your input. I do telecommute as much as possible but must occasionally see my clients face to face. Travel always includes risk, and awareness and preparedness reduces the risk as much as possible (I am assumung threat condition yellow for this trip,) So far there has not been anything concerning, but it is interresting to note that the TSA is requiring the next person in line to stay back three feet until called, (hmmm)
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 6 years, 9 months ago
    I predict a rise in Skype and GoToMeeting events. Unless his physical presence is required why not a virtual meeting?
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 9 months ago
      That's what I always ask - they did that for their meetings last week. It's really an actual presence [laying on of hands] around the place, observing and being available for those quick "Ooh! Glad I caught you - have you though about...." sessions. It's not one meeting [they always skype-or-whatever those].
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  • Posted by xthinker88 6 years, 9 months ago
    So I wanted to come back with - how much do you actually like him? But that was just in jest. Seriously there is no problem yet. Just let your reason prevail over the fear mongering of the media.

    I'm flying to Boston and back this week. Next week to Raleigh and back and then Seattle and back. I'm more concerned about getting the flu than Ebola. Especially since the Seattle trip is for fun and I'd rather not be coughing.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 9 months ago
    Wow... where do these people come from? I fly around 90,000 air miles a year for business, get a flu shot, carry some antibacterial to wash your hands with.

    Quite frankly, I live in northern California, I have more problems traveling elsewhere - particularly the midwest, where the lack of fresh fruits & vegetables screws up my stomach.

    Eat Greek yogurt every morning, its an excellent probiotic and fends off the traveler craps & stomach problems quite well. Carry some ibuprofen in case you get a headache (dehydration, not ebola), and stay in business-class hotels, use Avis Wizard or something for rental cars so you don't have to stand in line for that BS, they just have it waiting for you in the parking lot.

    If its a racist thing against 'brown people', I'm married to a Spaniard-Mexican, and we we travel quite a bit around Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta, the people are wonderful. We use rental cars there and travel the countryside.. did over 900 road miles there over the summer.

    Have you ever eaten fruit? or a salad? California produces 50%+ of the US fresh produce, and its 100% picked by Mexicans and Central Americans, so you are probably already well-immune to whatever it is you are afraid of.

    The only problem I've had in the last year was getting a ticket between Grand Forks, ND and Bemidji, MN in a rented 2014 Ford Explorer Limited. I was decelerating from the 65 zone to a 50 zone and no-shit, I got pulled over for 53 passing the 50 mph sign. The highway patrol sounded like someone out of Fargo. Walked around, admired the truck, saw it was a rental and saw I had a California driver license (more trouble than it is worth I'm sure) and gave me a 'warning'. I'm sure he figured the red $55k Explorer was a drug-runner from Canada for sure or something.

    Chill out, avoid the $1.00 tacos in the food trucks along the curb (I do). We have very few black people in California if its the West Africans transiting back & forth thing you are worried about... you have a much better chance of that in Minneapolis or Dallas, those were the immigration destinations for the ones we took on asylum in the 90's.

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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 9 months ago
      "Wow... where do these people come from? I fly around 90,000 air miles a year for business, get a flu shot, carry some antibacterial to wash your hands with."
      If we want diseases to wring our hands over, how about worrying that influenza might mutate into something with a much higher mortality rate or that rabies and HIV might mutate to become easily transmitted by casual contact.

      Regarding $1 tacos, they are a real threat to my health.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 6 years, 9 months ago
    First try to discern if the ebola virus is being seeded into America randomly or if a pattern is developing that would indicate a recognizable statistical distribution. Everything this administration does is geared toward increasing its power and control over the populace. Since Texas is an enemy and California is fully on board the Marxist bandwagon, it might not be on the WH approved target list.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 6 years, 9 months ago
    You should be concerned. However, paranoia is counterproductive to any producer. In the AS movies, train travel was the only major mode of mass transit. Ebola, if it turns into a pandemic, has the potential to end all mass transit. As with everything else, you plan for the worst and hope for the best. This will eventually pass. The question is whether we go into the wrong column of statistics (i.e. needless deaths). Other Gulchers were there as a community to respond when John Galt was taken to the State Science Institute.
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  • Posted by khalling 6 years, 9 months ago
    talked to a friend recently. She said so many people in Dallas believe they are sitting ducks. and contemplate taking their kids out of school.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 9 months ago
    Thank you for your cogent comments and thoughtful words, all. I knew I couldn't really stop him from going except by threatening him, and that's a bad thing to do to a long-term relationship.
    As I read over your comments, and let my brain actually WORK, rather than spinning in place and sparking and popping, I began to think: reduce the risk you can, act your usual intelligent self about a risky environment, suck up and deal.
    Thank you all so much.
    I am now heading to the Damsel in this Dress before-Halloween sale on FB [she makes the MOST comfortable back braces disguised as corsets EVER] and see if there's anything on the sale I like.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 9 months ago
    I'd give you the same advice that was given to soldiers of WW2 who were under fire of big guns. When the cannons went off, many tended to lose their bowels. But they had no choice. They had to be there. The cry went forth, "Keep a tight asshole!"
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  • Posted by edweaver 6 years, 9 months ago
    True or false I am not sure, but have heard that there is around 150 people a day coming into the US from Liberia. If true, personally I would avoid air travel at least for the next 2 months until we see what effect this will have. I am not paranoid but believe it is in our best interest to be very cautious.
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  • Posted by plusaf 6 years, 9 months ago
    Flying RDU to SJC via DEN on Friday, returning same route Tuesday. Check back with me and my wife in four weeks... Unless, of course, we're dead by then...

    :)
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  • Posted by slfisher 6 years, 9 months ago
    Do you need to decide today? He could also get masks and gloves to carry with him, and obviously sanitizer, alcohol wipes, and so on, and wipe down his seat.
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 9 months ago
      He is taking hand sanitizer.
      The thing that makes me crazy is that no information is being released other than the general anti-contagion info and there is so much conflicting info about how Ebola is transmitted; you don't know what will keep you safe - or even help.
      He decided to travel when he signed the contract. It requires a week per month on site [which we usually shave to 3 days] and this is a new client - he's never even met them.
      Unfortunately, the decision is not whether or not to travel, it is whether or not to work. No travel, no work, no paycheck.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 6 years, 9 months ago
    My husband has had two trips recently via air travel. I have been holding my breath ever since. One was to Chicago then South Bend, the other to Miami. To say I am concerned downplays how I really feel. His latest trip this past week was to Philly, but he drove. Whew! I think I'd be hesitant about it. Where are the flights originating from would be a consideration. I'm of the "no" opinion, and yet that makes me angry, because this was let in.

    How far of a drive from where you live? Even a smaller jet may be an option?
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    • Posted by $ 6 years, 9 months ago
      Since we're Westerners, drives are measured in time, not miles - it's about 16 hours. That's too far to drive alone in one session.
      One can get in on a private jet that's going, given time - like weeks.
      Part of what concerns me is what other flights go in to San Diego, from where. If it was LAX, I'd exercise one of my 'if you'd like to remain a husband, you'll.....' cards and veto that. I get sick even thinking about both LAX and ORD, but San Diego is not the same intensive-travel center.
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