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Posted by $ rainman0720 3 days, 11 hours ago to Politics
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Well, this time next Tuesday night we'll know one of two things: Either our republic is on life support, or we've crossed the rubicon.

I know I've got my tin foil hat back on, but if it's looking more and more like a Trump electoral blowout, I still believe something will happen. I've mentioned this in The Gulch before, and there were a lot of possibilities thrown around, like the Microsoft outage in July just being a trial run for what they're really planning should Trump be so far ahead that they can't manufacture enough votes again to defeat him.

Simply put, I don't believe the DS will ever let Trump be declared the winner.

To be totally honest, I've never been scared before about the outcome of a presidential election. But I am scared--no, I'm terrified--about this one.

To paraphrase: Someone once said that the country can survive an idiot in office, but it might not be able to survive the morons who elected him.

I'm not sure I can agree with that any longer. I don't think our country can survive even one term of a Kamala Harris presidency.

I've loved my time here in The Gulch. I've met some absolutely incredible and wonderful people, souls that I would like to meet IRL should the chance ever present itself. But if she wins, this place (and others like it) will be taken offline so goddamned fast that we'll never see it coming.

Like I said, I'm scared.


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  • Posted by Dobrien 3 days, 4 hours ago
    You should be thrilled. It’s the first election where you can see the corrupt uniparty in full day light. Should you be less scared having Obama gone through two Obama presidencies ,and not understand he was installed. This attack on US has been going on for decadesBeing awake is a gift. If she wins? Cheating and stealing is not winning. Anyone with eyes can see Trump is the most popular president in history. Period. Fight for your Freedom and life , don’t cower. Perhaps a sting operation is underway.
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    • Posted by $ 2 days, 23 hours ago
      A lot to sift through...

      No way I can be thrilled at the possibility of not only having a second election stolen, but who that would install as prez.

      Yeah, the corruption is front and center, but so what? As deeply rooted as the corruption is, there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.

      If she's president-elect on November 6, she wins. The DS wins. The onslaught against our republic is over. Bad guys win, good guys lose. End of story.

      Trump may be the post popular president in history, but again, so what? If they succeed again in preventing him from sitting in the White House, his popularity doesn't mean a damn thing, other than in our "I remember the good old days" conversations.

      Sorry to be such a downer.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 2 days, 10 hours ago
        Nope not a lot to sift through. 8 yrs ago , even 4 years ago most people were blind to the uniparty corruption. I was told to put on my tinfoil hat over and over again back then on this board. Today many who denied the reality are saying exactly what they called me a kook for. The Great Awakening required that the people be shown not told. I tried to do the telling and mostly fell on deaf ears, but now the majority has seen it. You have to know the problem to fix it. People know now. When Trump is inaugurated no one will remember what I have said. This whole op has been the most unsatisfying “I told you so” in history.
        Many choose the path of least resistance.
        For many you cannot tell them the truth.
        You must show them.
        Only at the PRECIPICE will people find the will [strength] to change and break the system of control [be free].
        Q
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  • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 3 days, 11 hours ago
    Remember Fahrenheit 451? And Rand's classic: Anthem?

    What will they write about us in the future?
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    • Posted by $ 3 days, 11 hours ago
      I almost know Anthem by heart. Every time I wish it could be a longer work, I again realize that it's perfect as written.

      What (or, in thinking about 1984, IF) they write about us in the future will be entirely determined by what happens next Tuesday.
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      • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 3 days, 9 hours ago
        I asked myself just now, why do I hate the Left and Leftists and any form of Marxist ideology?

        The answer is so simple. Marxist ideology is anti-reason and anti-human nature. If allowed to endure, it will destroy the species and maybe the world.
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      • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 3 days, 10 hours ago
        I think so too, rainman. These two disparate 'ideologies" cannot exist simultaneously in this country, and will they say about us, "...they only knew they loved her, when they let her go, and they let her go", just as the group Passenger sang.

        Freedom was born in America, I wonder if it will die here also.
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        • Posted by $ 3 days, 8 hours ago
          Agree completely; the two ideologies cannot co-exist. One is the ideology of sanity, logic, objectivity, and as you point out reason and human nature. The other is the anti- of all of them.

          And freedom dying is one reason why this election scares me. That outcome seems quite possible, a concept I never thought I would consider, much less admit to.
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          • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 3 days, 7 hours ago
            And if it did, do you think there would ever be any way to get it back?

            As bad as America is now, rotten to the core, there is still more freedom here than any other place. My youngest daughter traveled through Europe, and worked in London for a while. But she came back home, (after I spent about $2,000 to have documents translated into Italian so I and she could get dual citizenship---she wanted the dual citizenship so she could work in Europe), but she came back home, and that is because she wasn't used to the socialist atmosphere. This was in the early 2000's.

            So if freedom dies in America, can it live anywhere else?
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            • Posted by $ 2 days, 23 hours ago
              I would answer no to both your questions. There's a reason it's called a "point of no return"; one crossing it, there's no way back.
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              • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 2 days, 19 hours ago
                I wonder, too, if freedom can make a comeback, and think not.

                And yet, it happened in Soviet Russia. Some intelligent, self-respecting people (Solzhenitsyn, Gorbachev, etc.) realized what was happening to the people of Russia, the strong and intelligent people, and made plans, long before the final collapse, to change, to become free, like America.

                You are aware that it was a planned collapse, aren't you?
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          • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 3 days, 6 hours ago
            And talking about human nature, I have a thesis, that started to form within me after reading Loren Eisley's "The Immense Journey", about sixty years ago in college. And it is that the childhood of mankind and the childhood of man are mutually recapitulative. That is, development of the child psychologically and in maturity parallels that of the species.

            My point being separateness (of ego) is a later development in both species and individual. Evolution favors the development of the individual. Any ideology that prevents that development, or causes regression, as Marxist thinking does in any form (the collective) prevents evolution of species.

            And in cultures where "individuals" have not yet separated completely from the mother, other individuals, and the community, are more prone to dependency, and actually are culturally dependent. That is why communism appeals to the blacks descended from Sub-Saharan Africans, both New World and Old World.

            (I have several years of biology, other sciences, and math under my belt, in case you're wondering!)
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